2012/9/24 Felix Meschberger <[email protected]>:

>>>
>>> No. Our wrapper would only be used at development time (e.g. in the 
>>> Launchpad Builder) because the problem is actual wiring and development and 
>>> setting the dependencies.
>>
>> You mean our wrapper would onle be used at runtime, right? :) For
>> development we would need to change each module to use the wrapper.
>
> /me is confused ;-)
>
> Bundles are developed either against JCR 1.0 API (thus import with no 
> version), or against our JCR API incl. JCR 1.0 API with export (thus import 
> with 1.0), or against JCR 2.0 API (thus import with 2.0). This is all fine 
> and good and expected.
>
> At deployment time all these bundles want to resolve and wire. So we have to 
> have support for imports without a version (that's always there), with [1,2) 
> and with [2,3). This is where our wrapper bundle would kick in helping all 
> importers.
>
> For development time this wrapper would have no effect because the bundle 
> plugin would just decide on one version to import with.
>

Yeah, now we're on the same page :) I got confused because you wrote
"development time" in your first reply but actually meant deployment
time (which I also meant by runtime...)
Right, I thought we would need to create different imports, but
instead we can solve it this way much easier. So let's do a wrapper :)

Thanks
Carsten

> Regards
> Felix
>
>>
>> Carsten
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Felix
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I still tend to just go with jcr 2.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Carsten
>>>>
>>>> 2012/9/20 Ian Boston <[email protected]>:
>>>>> On 20 September 2012 02:29, Felix Meschberger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.09.2012 um 09:08 schrieb Ian Boston:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19 September 2012 16:45, Felix Meschberger <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not really a fan of this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the JCR spec group should come up with a fixed revision of the 
>>>>>>>> JCR bundle, which indicates that it really is backwards compatible 
>>>>>>>> (JSR_283-810)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the meantime we could do our own fix-bundling which exports both 
>>>>>>>> 1.x and 2.0 as proposed in the bug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doe that mean the slightly stricter ranges that get applied with the
>>>>>>> later bundle plugin will continue to work ie versions > 2.x < 3.0 ?
>>>>>>> IIUC the patch on JSR_283-810 looks like it will export at v1.1 which
>>>>>>> would cause problems for anything that was strict about its version
>>>>>>> range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The export of the packages as version 2.0 was a mistake (the only excuse 
>>>>>> we have is, that we didn't know better at the time).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My patch essentially causes the packages to be exported twice: Once with 
>>>>>> the seemingly correct version 1.1 and the second time with version 2.0 
>>>>>> to not break bundles written against the 2.0 library.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the classes will be the same no matter which declaration has been, 
>>>>>> this works perfectly (Commons IO  2.4 does a similar thing)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, that makes sense and covers stricter import version ranges.
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other hand, we could just give in an update. But this is wrong 
>>>>>>>> somehow...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Felix
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://java.net/jira/browse/JSR_283-810
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 18.09.2012 um 21:59 schrieb Carsten Ziegeler [email protected]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know we had this discussion here and there, however so far we don't
>>>>>>>>> have a good solution and currently if bundles use jcr 1.0 as a
>>>>>>>>> dependency they end up with an import of the jcr packages that just
>>>>>>>>> imports 1.x - so these bundles fail in a jcr 2 environment.
>>>>>>>>> This is in fact an issue with the jcr 2 bundle which should export
>>>>>>>>> both versions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we really need a solution now, so either we create our own jcr
>>>>>>>>> wrapper or we ramp up and require jcr 2 for all bundles. While in the
>>>>>>>>> pure dependency sense, requiring version 2.0 of an api when 1.0 is
>>>>>>>>> sufficient is wrong, it seems to be the most pragmatic solution we
>>>>>>>>> could do today. And in practice requiring 2.0 isn't a problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If no one complains or comes up with a doable alternative, I'll change
>>>>>>>>> the version in the parent pom in the next days :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Carsten Ziegeler
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carsten Ziegeler
>>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carsten Ziegeler
>> [email protected]
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