Sure; thanks.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 3:29 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:

> Should we include this bugfix?
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16203
> I'm merging to branch_9x now...
>
> Jan
>
> > 5. jan. 2024 kl. 17:14 skrev David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org>:
> >
> > 9.4.1 is unblocked; bug fixes are now on the release branch.  I plan to
> > pursue a RC soon (today/tomorrow).  This is my first time.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:53 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> SolrBot had been failing for a long time (>1month), but I got it on
> track
> >> again. Normally it only files new PRs on Sundays, but I'm triggering
> that
> >> manually now to consider what other upgrades from the past month that we
> >> should put into 9.4.1.
> >>
> >> Please have a look at https://github.com/apache/solr/pulls/solrbot and
> >> consider which ones should be merged and backported.
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>> 8. des. 2023 kl. 14:59 skrev David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> I renamed that job to add "(Crave)"
> >>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Check-9.x%20(Crave)/
> and
> >>> disabled it.  I then I created a new job copied from the
> >> "Solr-check-main"
> >>> but branch_9x.  Builds are hourly so we'll see how it goes.
> >>>
> >>> ~ David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:08 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> PS: https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Check-9.x/ is also
> >> not
> >>>> running since 25 days as it was converted to Crave..
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>>> 7. des. 2023 kl. 15:06 skrev David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com
> >:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've been working with Uv on these glitches.
> >>>>> ~ David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 2:47 AM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I backported ALL SolrBot PRs to branch_9_4, which brings the number
> of
> >>>>>> known CVEs down.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also have a few other dependency upgrades baking in PRs but
> >>>>>> unfortunately Crave has died so no PRs pass tests:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Run cd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> /crave-devspaces/pipeline/runs/${GITHUB_RUN_ID}_${GITHUB_RUN_NUMBER}/solr
> >>>>>>> Selecting project Solr (id:39)
> >>>>>>> Error: Process completed with exit code 1.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 7. des. 2023 kl. 02:44 skrev David Smiley <
> david.w.smi...@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sounds good Eric.  It's not clear when exactly a 9.4.1 RC will
> happen
> >>>> as
> >>>>>>> there are a couple security matters we're looking at.
> >>>>>>> ~ David
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 12:31 PM Eric Pugh <
> >>>>>> ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something that I’d like to get released ASAP is a fix to the
> >> bin/solr
> >>>>>> post
> >>>>>>>> command.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Our Ref Guide has a lot of mentions of using “bin/solr post -c
> tech
> >>>>>>>> products”, however I removed the -c parameter in favour of -url
> >>>>>> parameter.
> >>>>>>>> I think that was a mistake, and would like to restore the old -c
> >>>>>> parameter,
> >>>>>>>> and then make sure the Ref Guide is up to date.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This could be a 9.4.1 or 9.5 change.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Jason Gerlowski <
> >> gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Good question - I'm still thinking through what makes the most
> >> sense
> >>>>>>>>> there.  Let's continue discussion on SOLR-17100 if you've got
> >>>> thoughts!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 9:58 AM Jan Høydahl <
> jan....@cominvent.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, what do you mean by "publishing" the clients?
> >>>>>>>>>> I suppose you don't mean pip and npm, but including them in the
> >>>> binary
> >>>>>>>>>> tarball for users to consume? Or can we perhaps keep them
> >> "internal"
> >>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>> for a few releases with no docs and no guarantees, only
> >> dog-fooding?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. des. 2023 kl. 15:38 skrev Jason Gerlowski <
> >>>> gerlowsk...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see a 9.5 go out sometime in January to get our new
> >>>>>> Python
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> Javascript clients in front of users.  I'm willing to RM the
> >>>> release,
> >>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> share duties with you if you're interested David?  Publishing
> the
> >>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>> clients will require some changes to the release process, and
> I'd
> >>>>>> hate
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> saddle someone else with ironing out whatever hiccups are
> likely
> >> to
> >>>>>>>> crop
> >>>>>>>>>> up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing 9.5 on a January-ish
> >> timeframe?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That said, if someone else wants a 9.4.1 I don't want to get in
> >> the
> >>>>>> way
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> that either.  Jan's right that there'd still be value in a
> 9.4.1
> >>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a 9.5.  I imagine the driving factor would be whether there's a
> >>>>>> willing
> >>>>>>>>>> RM
> >>>>>>>>>>> for 9.4.1
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 5:42 AM Jan Høydahl <
> >> jan....@cominvent.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The benefit of doing 9.4.1 now is that it won't have that
> >> unknown
> >>>>>>>>>>>> regression that may be lurking in branch_9x now, so it's a
> much
> >>>>>> easier
> >>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade path for 9.4.0 users.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I feel a 9.5 should follow quickly after. There is
> >> always
> >>>>>>>> room
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for a 9.6, 9.7 etc if someone wants to promote newer features,
> >> we
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to wait for a certain number of new features to release,
> in
> >>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>> mind it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is enought that we have one very interesting feature, or that
> >2
> >>>>>>>> months
> >>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>> passed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can help backport dependency upgrades.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. des. 2023 kl. 05:50 skrev David Smiley <
> >>>>>> david.w.smi...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ideally I would have done a 9.4.1 earlier for that one
> issue...
> >>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't and kept feeling more and more guilty... so here we
> are.
> >>>>>> But
> >>>>>>>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't feel too guilty; open-source is volunteering;
> >> doing a
> >>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> release shouldn't be a required punishment for an unfortunate
> >>>> bug.
> >>>>>>>> It
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't even a feature I was using in my day-to-day; I was
> just
> >>>>>>>> helping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> someone fix their problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW a new Lucene release is close so we might to wait a bit
> on
> >>>> Solr
> >>>>>>>>>> 9.5,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe we do this 9.4.1.  That Lucene release also touches the
> >>>> index
> >>>>>>>>>>>> format
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ~ David
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 8:50 PM Shawn Heisey
> >>>>>>>>>> <apa...@elyograg.org.invalid
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/5/23 16:28, David Smiley wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know doing 9.5 was an option.  If it still is, I
> >> would
> >>>>>>>>>> prefer
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do 9.5.  What do people think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 9.5.0 section of CHANGES.txt in main is not as big as
> that
> >>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9.4.0, but it's not small either.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know whether any of those changes are something
> that
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> author
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinks needs to bake for a little while longer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I run a branch_9x snapshot on my little tiny Solr install
> that
> >>>>>> gets
> >>>>>>>>>> its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> index from dovecot, and I update it frequently.  It hasn't
> >> given
> >>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trouble.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I say go for it.  Someday I will do a release myself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shawn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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