There is an umbrella issue for major SolrJ changes 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15730. Some of the sub tasks are 
10.0 only. Could add a rename jira there?

Jan

> 30. apr. 2024 kl. 15:04 skrev Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>:
> 
> Please!   It would be nice if someone laid out the work to be done in some 
> tickets so folks could pick it up….  Otherwise it looks a bit daunting!
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 7:38 AM, Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
>> 
>> In Solr 10, SolrJ will have new maven coordinates and the need to explicitly 
>> pull in solrj-xx dependencies. So we coult also do a few key renames such as 
>> "Http2SolrClient" -> "HttpJettySolrClient", while we're busy breaking things 
>> :)
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>>> 30. apr. 2024 kl. 13:21 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for summarizing this all David!
>>> 
>>> We have HttpSolrClientBase AND BaseHttpSolrClient?!
>>> 
>>> A bit of the messiness here seems like it will resolve itself
>>> "automatically" if we make good on removing the existing deprecations.
>>> (Though given how "entrenched" the Apache client is, that will require
>>> a good bit of work...).
>>> 
>>> I like the convention established by the JDK client, of naming our
>>> low-level SolrClient implementations based on the HttpClient vendor in
>>> use.  IMO doing otherwise can be confusing in a few different ways.
>>> It's not high on my list to act on it immediately, but if there's
>>> enough consensus on the idea of renaming (e.g.) Http2SolrClient, I
>>> could file a ticket to document that as an ideal step and maybe it'll
>>> hook someone eventually?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:34 PM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's too bad HttpSolrServer setup this client philosophy. It's momentum 
>>>> was directly opposite to what you want: a SolrClient that can optionally 
>>>> stream or load balance and a SolrCloudClient that wraps it.
>>>> 
>>>> [Mark Miller - Chat @ 
>>>> Spike](https://spikenow.com/r/a/?ref=spike-organic-signature&_ts=2kigx5)  
>>>> [2kigx5]
>>>> 
>>>> On April 25, 2024 at 20:07 GMT, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Our SolrJ class hierarchy is looking rather confusing right now for
>>>> the HTTP ones especially. This message is mostly a big FYI, with some
>>>> reflections and a recommendation or two.
>>>> 
>>>> SolrClient
>>>> - BaseHttpSolrClient (NOT yet deprecated but should be?)
>>>> - - HttpSolrClient (based on Apache HttpClient; deprecated)
>>>> - - - DelegationTokenHttpSolrClient
>>>> - CloudSolrClient
>>>> - - CloudHttp2SolrClient
>>>> - - CloudLegacySolrClient (based on Apache HttpClient; deprecated)
>>>> - ConcurrentUpdateHttp2SolrClient
>>>> - - ...
>>>> - ConcurrentUpdateSolrClient (based on Apache HttpClient; deprecated)
>>>> - - ...
>>>> - HttpSolrClientBase (this is new)
>>>> - - Http2SolrClient
>>>> - - HttpJdkSolrClient (this is new; based on the JDK HttpClient)
>>>> - LBSolrClient
>>>> - - LBHttp2SolrClient
>>>> - - LBHttpSolrClient (based on Apache HttpClient; deprecated)
>>>> 
>>>> In retrospect, we can see that some past names weren't so great after
>>>> all. I think our clients should reflect the vendor/source of the
>>>> HttpClient. "HttpJdkSolrClient" is the newest client, and it reflects
>>>> the vendor (JDK provided HttpClient). Personally I don't care enough
>>>> to rename all the ones with "2" in there to have "Jetty" but that's
>>>> what they are -- if it has a "2", it's using Jetty (and it supports
>>>> 1.1; FYI JDK also supports both 1.1 and 2 as well). The clients for
>>>> Apache HttpClient are all deprecated so perhaps we continue to leave
>>>> them be, mostly. Removing them will take some time; they are
>>>> entrenched! BaseHttpSolrClient (the parent of HttpSolrClient) is at
>>>> the moment even more confusing because HttpSolrClientBase was just
>>>> added. BaseHttpSolrClient should be removed now; it only holds 2
>>>> static inner classes for RemoteSolrException and
>>>> RemoteExecutionException which should find a new home somewhere.
>>>> Since they are referenced so much, that will happen only in main.
>>>> HttpSolrClientBase is a tempting home but SolrClient would be fine, I
>>>> think.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, just because we have a nice new HttpJdkSolrClient, doesn't mean
>>>> we can yet advise anyone to safely remove Apache & Jetty dependencies
>>>> *yet*! We have no tests that this works, and a quick attempt I did
>>>> recently showed there are some obscure references still! Modularizing
>>>> SolrJ further (for Jetty & Apache) will help reveal where we have some
>>>> references, after which we can finally free users of needing those
>>>> dependencies.
>>>> 
>>>> ~ David Smiley
>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
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