I agree with Jason on everything.

Thank you so much for putting this much work into something with so much
baggage in the community!

I'm a huge +1 here, and love the things I saw in your screenshots on Slack.

- Houston

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 2:23 PM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Christos,
>
> Sorry for the delay responding here - lots of context to read up on!
>
> Firstly, thanks for the huge effort you've put into writing this all
> up!  Quite the thorough job, and it's really helpful to enable us
> non-UI folks to follow along haha.
>
> If I understand things correctly, there's a few distinct aspects to
> your proposal:
>
> 1. New UI would live alongside the existing one (for a time)
> 2. The code for the new UI would live in the main repository.
> 3. Development would be piece-meal (i.e. not one big code-dump)
>
> Overall, this sounds like a reasonable approach to me.
>
> I think a big concern with putting code in the main repo is that it's
> pretty far from the (current) PMC's/community's wheelhouse to
> maintain.  I definitely share that concern.  But IMO we're already
> sortof at a "worst case" in that regard with our existing Admin UI
> code.  Doing the "refresh" in the main repo gives us a forcing
> function (i.e. the review process itself) to ensure that at least a
> few community members will understand the code to at least some
> extent.  That'll be a huge improvement over where we are today.
>
> Anyway, I'm a cautious '+1' based on these details at least.  To quote
> a message from Jan in Slack: "I'd rather see some imperfect movement
> than a perfect plan never realized."
>
> (Here's hoping my reply will bump this to the top of folks' Inboxes,
> and get you some more feedback.)
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 12:25 PM Christos Malliaridis
> <c.malliari...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > In regards to SIP-7
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-7+Updated+Solr+Admin+UI
> >
> > and SIP-10
> > <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-10+Improve+Getting+Started+experience
> >
> > I would like to add my perspective and address the current concerns about
> > implementing a new UI, so that we can take some actions and improve the
> > overall quality and experience of Solr Admin UI.
> >
> > There are many discussions and opinions about the UI and how to resolve
> the
> > current issues, but they all led to the topic becoming stale. In my
> > opinion, developing and introducing a new UI into the main repository
> piece
> > by piece without replacing the current UI until feature-complete could
> >
> > - address all the issues currently reported (and not),
> > - add new features,
> > - replace the EOL framework and
> > - improve the overall user experience.
> >
> > And the maintenance, which is one of the most important parts, could be
> > addressed with the right choice of framework.
> >
> > I created a detailed writeup
> > <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14F1QARdkIrmKXQ4zuWUuOXduH4v_XwZ_Zrd0d2jE468/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > for those who are interested, where I also write about the alternative
> > approaches proposed in the past and listing the pros and cons of each one
> > individually.
> >
> > I also started to improve this part by simply designing a new UI
> > <
> https://www.figma.com/design/VdbEfcWQ8mirFNquBzbPk2/Apache-Solr-Admin-UI-v2-Concept
> >
> > and addressing multiple issues at once. I have already received some
> community
> > feedback
> > <https://apachesolr.slack.com/archives/C01GVPZSSK0/p1718289047297999>,
> but
> > it is far from production-ready and needs more input. I think this could
> be
> > further refined and moved to development if there is consensus on that as
> > the initial approach.
> >
> > What's your opinion about this approach and do you have any concerns that
> > have not been addressed?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Christos
>
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