Hey, we even have historic tgz releases with both JAR files and source code, no 
need for git foo either :)

Jan

> 12. nov. 2024 kl. 15:15 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>:
> 
> Yeah, no question that the code can be resurrected with some source
> control magic.  And it's in line with our backcompat requirements, as
> long as hadoop-auth remains on branch_9x.  But still - "dig the code
> up yourself if you want it" might come off as a bit callous to
> hadoop-auth users looking to upgrade to 10.
> 
> Sounds like there's lots of folks against the idea though, so I accept
> I'm the minority here.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:58 AM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to source control history, it's always resurrectable by whomever
>> cares enough to resurrect it.  I don't think we should feel compelled to do
>> anything more than remove it.  If someone cares -- hey go for it.  But I
>> don't think we need a convention/process that includes this.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 8:32 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Apologies for chiming in to this a bit late.  I don't have any
>>> objection to the hadoop-auth module moving out of the apache/solr
>>> repo, especially given the excellent due diligence you put in earlier
>>> this year through your survey, in questions to users@ about usage,
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> But should we have a plan for what happens to the code *after* that?
>>> In other cases (e.g. DIH) we've created a repo containing the removed
>>> code, so that anyone interested could still build it on their own.  Is
>>> that worth doing here?  Is there any convention around where we do
>>> that sort of thing, and where we skip it?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 6:37 AM David Eric Pugh <de...@yahoo.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wanted to share that I have a PR for removing only hadoop-auth module
>>> here: https://github.com/apache/solr/pull/2835
>>>>    On Tuesday, November 5, 2024 at 04:23:09 AM EST, Jan Høydahl <
>>> jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can't you diff versions.lock betwen before and after to get a clue? In
>>> case our validate-licenses gradle task does not complain about unused files
>>> in licenses/ folder...
>>>> 
>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>>>> 2. nov. 2024 kl. 12:27 skrev David Eric Pugh <de...@yahoo.com.INVALID
>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did reach out to the user list about hadoop-auth and haven't heard
>>> anything back.  I may do another "bump" to see if I elicit anything.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/vnd73j0nq3losfc17lzqp48g10r5tdgg
>>>>> I am going to open up a JIRA and just see what's involved in removing
>>> only the hadoop-auth module.
>>>>> Anyone have tips on how I might figure out which licenses etc can be
>>> removed when hadoop-auth is removed?  A magic gradle command?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 05:20:37 PM EDT, Gus Heck <
>>> gus.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was thinking about this recently too. I search our archives and the
>>> only
>>>>> interesting email regarding hadoop was a response in which Dave Smiley
>>>>> pointed out that the backend is pluggable and thus it could be used to
>>>>> target S3... but probably if we want to support an S3 storage backend,
>>> this
>>>>> should be done more directly and with a clear notion of how to avoid
>>>>> wasting duplication on replicas when s3 already has its own
>>> redundancy.  (I
>>>>> did see some mention of replicas creating needless redundancy on
>>> hadoop).
>>>>> There were a whole passel of CVE related emails that referenced CVE's
>>> in
>>>>> hadoop libs however.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I have seen little evidence that anyone uses this integration
>>> anymore.
>>>>> This probably however should be posed to the user list as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we can't drum up a response there, I'm definitely +1 to lightening
>>> the
>>>>> load via options 1 or 4.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 5:05 PM David Eric Pugh
>>> <de...@yahoo.com.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just re-read my copy of Marie Kondo's book The Life-Changing Magic
>>> of
>>>>>> Tidying Up[1]  and it brought to mind the state of our Hadoop
>>> integrations
>>>>>> with Solr.  I'd like to gauge the community's thoughts on how we move
>>>>>> forward with Hadoop in Solr 10.
>>>>>> My perspective is that Hadoop is no longer a key part of Solr's
>>> future,
>>>>>> and that is reflected in it's lack of maintenance and tech debt that
>>> it
>>>>>> appears to carrying.    We seem to have a lot of points of discussion
>>> where
>>>>>> we want to do something and "but Hadoop doesn't support it" or "the
>>> tests
>>>>>> for Hadoop fail".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe everything we would be removing is in:* Hadoop Auth Module*
>>> HDFS
>>>>>> Module
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it's useful to the community I can make a longer argument about
>>> why we
>>>>>> need to thank Hadoop for it's service and say good bye.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Otherwise, I think these are our paths forward:
>>>>>> 1) Just straight up remove both modules in Solr 10 like we did with
>>>>>> analytics.
>>>>>> 2) Move both modules to the solr-sandbox repository.  Can we just
>>> leave
>>>>>> them there on Solr 9 and see if they get some new life?3) Actively
>>> recruit
>>>>>> someone to be a committer focused on the Hadoop code to bring them up
>>> to
>>>>>> date and allow them to stay?  I would want to time box this effort.
>>>>>> 4) If someone volunteers to maintain them, move those modules to
>>>>>> independent GitHub repos like we did with DIH.
>>>>>> Thoughts?  Other suggestions?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Kondo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work)
>>>>> https://a.co/d/b2sZLD9 (my fantasy fiction book)
>>>> 
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