Benjamin - I think this has to do with Solr 9.7+ using thread executor's
for searching.

I can take Solr 9.7 or Solr 9.8 and just undo this one line in
SolrIndexSearcher
<https://github.com/apache/solr/blob/7af2ad56753bf75b8391639233dcc8d465767de9/solr/core/src/java/org/apache/solr/search/SolrIndexSearcher.java#L385>
and
the query doesn't fail

-    super(wrapReader(core, r),
core.getCoreContainer().getIndexSearcherExecutor());
+    super(wrapReader(core, r));

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 6:49 AM Benjamin Trent <ben.w.tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> From the vector search side of things, nothing immediately pops up as a
> cause. https://lucene.apache.org/core/9_11_0/changes/Changes.html
>
> The given query is just a regular kNN query. So, its rewrite should behave
> similarly as it did in 9.10.
>
> One significant change for kNN search behavior did happen in 9.10:
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/12962 But since this issue doesn't
> happen in 9.10, I am at a loss.
>
> Since `knn` rewrites itself to `KnnScoreDoc` object, It's surprising that
> the result set should change between collecting and scoring.
>
> I wonder if Solr adjusted due to this deprecation or started using
> collector managers and inadvertently tripped over a bug or something?
>
> Or, something was added in Apache Lucene 9.11 where the same knn query
> over the same index could result in a different set of top-k docs. Though,
> I would have thought the main candidate there would be:
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/pull/12962 (in lucene 9.10).
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 3:46 AM Moll, Dr. Andreas <m...@juris.de.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to inform you about a behavior change in SolR 9.6 (Lucene 9.10)
>> vs. SolR 9.7 (Lucene 9.11) for vector searches.
>>
>> We heavily rely on vector searches for embeddings in combination with
>> filter queries on the parent documents.
>>
>> Our queries in general looked like this:
>>
>> select?q={ knn f=vector topK=2048}[...]
>>
>> rows=100
>>
>> fq={ child of='childtype:root'}…
>> start=0
>>
>> sort=score desc,ID desc
>>
>> With SolR 9.7 and higher, this results in ~10% of the queries producing
>> the following error:
>>
>> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Doc id 27227879 doesn't match the
>> query
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.lucene.search.TopFieldCollector.populateScores(TopFieldCollector.java:478)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher.populateScoresIfNeeded(SolrIndexSearcher.java:1812)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher.getDocListNC(SolrIndexSearcher.java:2001)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher.getDocListC(SolrIndexSearcher.java:1775)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher.search(SolrIndexSearcher.java:772)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>>         at
>> org.apache.solr.search.SolrIndexSearcher.search(SolrIndexSearcher.java:767)
>> ~[?:?]
>>
>> After several days of debugging, I confirmed that the number of errors
>> correlates to the topK value:
>>
>>    - k = 8 -> 44 errors
>>    - k = 2048 -> 17 errors
>>    - k = 16384 -> 1 error
>>
>> I found a workaround for the issue by modifying the sort parameter to:
>>
>> sort=score desc
>>
>> With this change, our queries work like a charm again. The initial
>> thought of adding the ID desc sorting was to get more reproducible
>> results, but it is not strictly necessary for us.
>>
>> Could you clarify if this change in SolR/Lucene was intended? If so,
>> perhaps you want to add documentation on vector queries that adding an
>> additional sorting might cause errors.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dr. Andreas Moll
>>
>>
>>
>

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