Hi Paul,
as Robert already said, the jenkins.thetaphi.de server is hosted by an
individual (myself), so the ASF is not affected by that. It offers a
Jenkins server with Linux and a Windows VM and a macOS VM. I know the
discussion how legal that is. The whole setup runs like this since very
long time, so it is not new.
If Apple wants to fight against me, they should go ahead. I can for sure
switch off the VM in worst case, but using a publicly available string
to feed the Apple-SMC with a variable thats read by the Darwin Kernel on
bootup is not a violation. BUT: On the long term, the VM is questionable
anyways, as Apple moved away from x86-64, so indeed a Github runner is
better. I think we use one for Lucene already, Dawid knows better.
Uwe
Am 19.03.2025 um 16:19 schrieb Paul Irwin:
First, congrats on setting up the new hardware! It's amazing what modern
hardware is capable of for such a low cost.
It seems unwise to continue using a Hackintosh VM. It is questionably legal
at best (assuming a license was bought), and could result in consequences
for either the ASF or individuals involved in setting that up. The "osk"
string mentioned below is designed to be a warning about this. I don't mean
to kick an anthill, but I searched the archives for this list and haven't
seen that discussed until now. (I also don't think it's productive to
debate the merits of Apple's licensing choices or their walled garden; we
can't change that or the possible consequences either way.)
There are several legal options available for running macOS builds/jobs.
One is GitHub Actions, where the job could be manually dispatched via API
from Jenkins if needed.
https://docs.github.com/en/rest/actions/workflows?apiVersion=2022-11-28#create-a-workflow-dispatch-event
There's also MacinCloud that offers hosted Mac servers for far less than
equivalently spec'ed Linux Azure/AWS/GCP VMs. https://www.macincloud.com/
I also daily drive macOS, and if there's any way I can help the team by
testing issues/fixes/features/etc. on macOS, just let me know and I'd be
happy to help on my end.
Paul Irwin
On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 8:22 AM Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 12:53 PM Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
Possibly migrate away from VirtualBOX to KVM, but it's unclear if
Hackintoshs work there.
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