ok cool.  I enabled this flag on several more jobs -- all the bulk test
ones for the different Solr non-release branches.  I assume that cleanup
needn't be tied to any particular job so much as the cleanup needs to
happen enough that it executes on the 2 build machines.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 6:52 AM Bob Thomson <[email protected]> wrote:

> That one claims to have cleared the workspace and it didn't seem to affect
> the job duration at all either which is good:
>
> [WS-CLEANUP] Deleting project workspace...
> [WS-CLEANUP] Deferred wipeout is disabled by the job configuration...
> [WS-CLEANUP] Done
>
> and that worked, as I don't see a ws-cleanup for Solr-Test-main after this
> one:
>
> Jul 14 02:12 Solr-Test-main_ws-cleanup_1784004182558
>
> I'll remove all the other, olrder Solr-Test-main_ws-cleanup_1* dirs on
> lucene3/4, and we can monitor and confirm no new ones get created/left. If
> so, that seems a valid setting for all of the jobs that run on lucene3/4.
> We can then see if it's possible to enable it at a higher level so all the
> jobs run that way, provided you don't see any longer duration on job run
> time due to this.
>
> Kind regards,
> -Bob Thomson,
> ASF Infrastructure
>
> On 2026/07/15 01:09:34 David Smiley wrote:
> > I checked "Disable deferred wipeout" and scheduled a build.  It ran a few
> > hours ago on Lucene-3
> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Test-main/14288/
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 9:55 AM Bob Thomson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > One thing you could try, to see if it helps, is Disable Deferred
> Wipeout -
> > > this will cause a delay in your job completing, but it means the
> workspace
> > > cleanup happens before the job carries on, rather than being offloaded
> to a
> > > thread to do later, something which seems to be not working properly
> at the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > It's under:
> > > Build Environment, Delete workspace before build starts, Advanced:
> > >
> > > Disable deferred wipeout
> > >
> > > On lucene 3, there are several ws-cleanup directories for
> Solr-Test-main,
> > > so that would seem a good job to try this out on. If it makes the job
> fail,
> > > we will hopefully get info on why, if not, we can see what sort of
> delay is
> > > incurred.
> > >
> > > The explanation from Gemin Gen AI:
> > > "In a Freestyle job, when the "deferred wipeout" feature is active,
> > > Jenkins instantly renames your workspace directory to
> > > workspace_ws-cleanup_[timestamp] and tells the build that it's
> finished. It
> > > then delegates the actual deletion of that directory to a separate Java
> > > thread in the background.
> > >
> > > By checking Disable deferred wipeout, you are telling Jenkins: "Do not
> use
> > > background threads. Hold up the build execution for an extra second,
> delete
> > > the files synchronously right now, and only mark the build complete
> once
> > > they are 100% gone.""
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2026/07/14 12:49:48 David Smiley wrote:
> > > > I modified one build,
> > > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Solr/job/Solr-Maven-Snapshots-main/
> to
> > > > have an additional shell execution step with that snippet, which
> performs
> > > > the cleanup via Docker as you suggested, albeit not with the
> > > Jenkins/groovy
> > > > wrapper all around it.  It ran successfully this morning.  I'm not
> sure
> > > why
> > > > Docker is involved for what looks like a simple file removal; might
> you
> > > > explain?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2026 at 8:41 AM Bob Thomson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > In Infra, we don't work on job definitions as that is a project's
> > > domain.
> > > > > The above is only a suggestion which may or may not help.
> > > > > If it is easier, you could look at adding similar code to the jobs
> as a
> > > > > shell script post build step in order to remove the files. Aurélien
> > > Pupier
> > > > > of the Camel project has been looking at the same issue there, so
> worth
> > > > > having a chat with them about potential solutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > In terms of the jobs which are leaving ws-cleanup directories
> behind,
> > > it
> > > > > seems to be many of them. On lucene 3 today, there are already 113
> such
> > > > > directories, 213GB so far.
> > > > >
> > > > > the jobs that they are associated with, from per their directory
> names
> > > are:
> > > > >
> > > > > OWASP-9.x
> > > > > OWASP-main
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-main
> > > > > Solr-BadApples-Tests-main
> > > > > Solr-Docker-Nightly-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Lint-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Lint-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Lint-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Lint-main
> > > > > Solr-Maven-Snapshots-main
> > > > > Solr-Test-10.0
> > > > > Solr-Test-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Test-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Test-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Test-main
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-10.x
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-9.11
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-9.x
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-main
> > > > > solr-desktop-ui-nightly
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4, there are 80 from these builds:
> > > > >
> > > > > OWASP-9.x
> > > > > OWASP-main
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Artifacts-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Docker-Nightly-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Lint-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Lint-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Lint-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Lint-main
> > > > > Solr-Maven-Snapshots-main
> > > > > Solr-Test-10.0
> > > > > Solr-Test-10.x
> > > > > Solr-Test-9.11
> > > > > Solr-Test-9.x
> > > > > Solr-Test-main
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-9.11
> > > > > Solr-TestIntegration-9.x
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2026/07/03 20:32:09 David Smiley wrote:
> > > > > > I know too little about Jenkins to know how to apply this
> solution,
> > > but I
> > > > > > can try to help.  The Solr jobs are defined in Jenkins, not in
> our
> > > repo
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Jenkinsfile.  Maybe you could apply this to one of the jobs
> yourself?
> > > > > Does
> > > > > > this need to be done on all jobs or just some or will just one
> do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 8:20 AM Bob Thomson <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This has come up as an issue again today, necessitating
> > > intervention to
> > > > > > > keep the service available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2026/06/29 07:04:23 Robert Thomson wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are regularly noticing a build-up of large ws-cleanup
> > > directories
> > > > > > > > on lucene3 and 4, necessitating deletion. Camel also
> experiences
> > > this
> > > > > > > > issue with builds and the root cause is that there are files
> > > created
> > > > > > > > as part of the docker build that are not owned by the user
> used
> > > for
> > > > > > > > the cleanup, so fail to be deleted by the workspace clean up
> > > plugin.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Searching with GenAI came up with the following suggestion
> when
> > > > > > > > discussing with them that you may like to try out in your
> > > pipelines
> > > > > > > > that create docker images.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > > > -Bob Thomson,
> > > > > > > > ASF Infrastructure
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > post {
> > > > > > > >     always {
> > > > > > > >         // Fallback option: If standard cleanWs() stalls out
> on
> > > > > > > permissions
> > > > > > > >         script {
> > > > > > > >             try {
> > > > > > > >                 cleanWs deleteDirs: true,
> disableDeferredWipeout:
> > > > > true
> > > > > > > >             } catch (Exception e) {
> > > > > > > >                 echo “Standard cleanup failed, launching
> Docker
> > > Root
> > > > > > > > Purge force-override...”
> > > > > > > >                 sh “”"
> > > > > > > >                     docker run --rm \
> > > > > > > >                       -v ${WORKSPACE}/..:/zap \
> > > > > > > >                       alpine:latest \
> > > > > > > >                       sh -c ‘rm -rf /zap/*-ws-cleanup*’
> > > > > > > >                 “”"
> > > > > > > >             }
> > > > > > > >         }
> > > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > > > }
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