First, sorry for breaking the nettiquete of the SA wiki, as I was not aware of the local way of discussing page changes. Once again, I regret having been unpolite, it was not my intention.
Also regret to perhaps re-open old discussions and perhaps scares.
1.- Is there interest for a tool such as SAProxy?
I will start highligthing that SAProxy is the only real way to use SpamAssassin in a Windows end user environment where there is not MTA SpamAssassin support.
It is a pain in the * not having any developer interested in SAProxy and furthering its development (under whichever licence it could be). Saddly, I am not perl literate. Blood, sweet and tears was what it took me to make saproxy 1.2 from the sourceforge CVS to work with SA 2.64. Now I am frightened to try with SA 3+
I use it with Mozilla and with TheBat. Also with MrPosman that proxies to web based mails.
I have to live without the bayesian part, as there is not a really integrated way with my mua to clasiffy ham/spam.
I have to live without the use of the whitelists and autowhitelists due to the same.
I wish I would be able to use Razor2, DCC, hashcash, SPF (?), ...
I dream of a Mozilla initiative to integrate SA and a SAProxy alike ...
But, in spite of all those, I feel all is best that any other mua based scheme I could use to fight spam. SpamAssassin is the best!
It is a pity that we windoze end users lack of a strong tool to use it.
SO, I think a Pop3Proxy "Phoenix" or a SAProxy "Phoenix" would be a hit!
2.- what about Pop3Proxy / SAProxy info?
Of all of the matters related to SAProxy, you certainly have much more information than myself. I have only made intensive searchs in the forums and googled a lot. Also exchanged some mails with people, amongst others, the author of pop3proxy. In my original contribution to the wiki, I provided quite a lot of reference material to my conclusions.
It is clear that due to the pop3proxy author not wishing to accept some of the requirements imposed by the apache set up, SAProxy did not move to the current SA apache home.
Just to wind up a little:
Inbfo was scarce when I saw the wiki. Even in pre-apache info there is a lot of confusion regarding differences amongst pop3proxy (the original Dan McDonald proxy), SAProxy (the sourceforge based pop3proxy much more enhanced proxy, by Dan, Daniel and the third man I always are not able to remmeber), and SAProxy Pro, the stata labs commercially sold SAProxy derivative.
Pop3proxy must be hand-installed and you need quite a lot of computer knowledte.
SAProxy is (up to version 1.2) available at sourceforge, but not packaged. It has a GUI, RBL support, etc.
Then, I think but perhaps I am wront there was a a downloadable packaged SAProxy (including SA 2.6?) into an exe file. Download, if memory does not fail to me, was from stata labs site.
Then, there were modifications (some debugging) that were not commited to sourceforge as such but were in SAProxy 1.21 packaged.
Then, the pro version appeared, including facilities to interact with bloomba mua to classify ham/spam in the bayesian part.
3.- Then, what happens with SAProxy source code?
Well, the actual strong SAProxyStatus wiki page discussion is related to the actual licence situation of SAProxy Pro.
Pop3proxy is PAL
SAProxy has dual PAL/GPL (with original author consent)
SAProxy Pro is (was) a commercial derivative of SAProxy.
Stata Labs had in their web site by 9th September 2004 the following:
SAproxy Pro complies with the Perl Artistic License in the following ways:
- Following 3(a) by placing the modifications in the Public Domain
- Following 4(b) by distributing a standard version of SpamAssassin, which is available here ![[WWW]]( "[WWW]")
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/spamassassin/ under the "spamassassin" module
You can see the PAL here
so, IMHO, Stata Labs must provide the source code. I cannot understand why do you believe that under PAL they should not have to provide the source code. And, last version SAProxy Pro has not been commited to sourceforge CVS. And I have asked them for the code and have not reply (yet).
By the way, for info, StataLabs has just been acquired by Yahoo, and seems it has no plans to continue with SAProxy pro any more.
Just to end, I cannot understand why in the SAProxyStatus wiki page it cannot be claimed that source code must be provided by Stata Labs ... would it be that me being spaniard are not awere that the lawyers of Stata Labs might carry me to court due to ? what, libel? Or that the responsability might go to apache? or the project?
Please, teach the unaware man!
Thanks,
CTone.
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