Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, it does matter IMO.  Doing it that way disenfranchises the
> other people in the process.  It also means there's no public/official
> discussion about a release before it's approved.

I already said my comment (read: not a vote) on IRC was not a vote.  I
*perhaps* made a boo-boo by not remembering to email my vote and Michael
*perhaps* made a boo-boo by counting my IRC comment as a vote, but way
too big a deal has been made over this.

However, there's no disenfranchising possible here.  The Apache voting
process merely requires 3 +1 votes to make a release -- no discussion,
no 24-hour delays, none of that is required.  Also, vetos are
non-binding for making releases.  Technically, however, we still have
never had a third +1 vote for 3.0.3 (I only count two: Michael's and
Justin's), but here's a third explicit vote:

  +1 to release 3.0.3

The ASF doesn't allow vetos of releases to avoid (generally) this type
of release issue.

> Either we act as a group and do things publically (ie: lists and BZ
> (which end up on the lists)) so everyone can be in on the discussion,
> or we have factions where small groups of people do things amongst
> themselves.  I prefer the former.

Nobody here disagrees with you.

Daniel

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