On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:35:05PM -0500, Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
> > some responsibilities; such as using SVN version control, for example.
> 
> FWIW, we use SVN as our version control mechanism on SARE rules...
> actually the entire project, website included, in handled through SVN.
> We promote rules from testing to published manually, but the automated
> checkouts occur to populate the live rulebase.
> 
> So, maybe there are other responsibilities that make it not-so-easy for
> SA, but I guarantee one thing, SARE goes through through the process of
> masscheck, test, and promote very efficiently.

Well, this all gets back to what I posted originally...  The main issue
at the moment is that to grant commit access for the rules sandbox area,
people need to get ASF SVN commit access which includes a PMC vote,
submission for/creation of a full ASF account, etc, etc.  The last person
we setup took 2-3 weeks between the initial vote mail and the time they
could actually get in and do things.  That type of setup doesn't promote
the "quickly shoot a couple of rules in for testing every so often"
style that seems to be desired.

There's plans in the works to goto a CA model and not need to have SVN
and shell access tied together so much (I'm not 100% sure why it's so
tied together now, but ...)  Until that happens, there's just a large process
that we have to go through to give people commit access, and we'll have to
rely the other methods (bugzilla, pre-arranged mails to a committer, etc,) to
get new rules in.

Personally, I think that going through the whole process ties people more
closer into the project.  Having shell access, an @apache.org email address,
as well as commit privileges promotes a long-term relationship.  If a
person's goal is to basically do a drive-by rule submission, then why isn't
bugzilla an appropriate choice for that?

I'd rather focus on how to get more people actively involved in the
project as a whole as opposed to just focusing on increasing our number
of rules.  Two or three people who are enthusiastic and have time to
work on keeping rules updated would go a long way!  It's the whole "prime the
pump" thing.

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