https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6247
--- Comment #46 from Neil Schwartzman <[email protected]> 2009-12-14 07:01:00 UTC --- (In reply to comment #43) > http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20091212-r889898-n/T_RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED/detail > http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20091212-r889898-n/T_RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE/detail > > Results from Saturday masscheck. There are some problems. > > * RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED seems to be a subset of RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE. If so then > the > existing and proposed scores are inappropriate, as it would add both numbers > on > every hit. > > Options: > 1) Is anyone else using these zones for lookups now? If not, could you please > change it so they are non-overlapping? > 2) Make SAFE one score, and CERTIFIED a smaller score. CERTIFIED always > triggers with safe, so CERTIFIED only adds a small number on top of SAFE to > reach the intended total weight. > > The overlap analysis shows near 100% overlap with the old rules, but I'm not > sure we can trust those numbers. I'm not sure that ruleqa is behaving > properly > in the overlap analysis, as SAFE and CERTIFIED claim to be 100% overlapping in > both directions when this is clearly incorrect. Hi, With regard to the overlap of Certified to Safe Yes, you have it right – everything on Certified is on Safe. But not everything of Safe is on Certified. As I said earlier, it is much tougher to get and stay on Certified; we use complaint performance metrics*, all unavailable to Spamasassin users to determine day-to-day compliance with listing standards. Certified (nee. Sender Score Certified, nee. Bonded Sender had, for a very long time a -4.5. We are asking for the new score because we believe our performance metrics have gotten that much better over the years. In terms of numbers, they break down like this: Certified Active: 4407 Suspended: 1300 Total: 5707 Safe Active: 6561 Suspended: 283 Total: 6844 We feel that the onus and larger benefit is well-justified by our performance metrics to be placed upon Certified. Safe is, in essence, know senders who have rDNS in place, aren’t blacklisted, and don’t hit spamtraps often. Certified senders are all of that, and they maintain low complaint levels at major receiving sites, and have a sender reputation that determines that what they send is not junk. -- Neil Schwartzman Director, Certification Security & Standards Return Path Inc. * Windows Live Sender Reputation Data, Hotmail user complaints, Yahoo! user complaints, complaints from two confidential webmail providers; and in the coming months, two additional data sources, and we will be swapping out one of the confidential sources for a larger provider as well. ** trap hits, rDNS, performance, lack of measurable volume, etcetera -- Configure bugmail: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug.
