On Mon, 23 May 2011, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:

On 23/05/2011 3:53 PM, John Hardin wrote:
 On Mon, 23 May 2011, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
>  On 23/05/2011 9:27 AM, John Hardin wrote:
> > I'd suggest that there should be nightly masschecks and rule > > autopromotion and update generation for the production branch as > > well as for trunk. We're doing a lot of rule dev on trunk, but how > > widely used is it in actual production? > > I'm just waiting for approval from the group to turn the stable > updates back up. trunk updates are of course ongoing already. Are > you asking for generated scores to be released with the trunk update > packages?

 Where would the scores for sandbox rules in a stable update come from if
 not the generated scores? Would they all be scored at 1.0 unless a
 manual explicit score was entered in a file under rules/ ?

If we weren't generating scores for stable updates, that is if we were to omit the 72_scores.cf file, you'd get a package that looks like your rules directory after run make on trunk.

For sandbox rules, in the above scenario, you would:

- NOT get the scores from the sandboxes, as they are stripped out
- would get scores set in a file in rules/ ... but you run into the issue of rules from the sandbox coming and going out of sync with the additions and deletions of scores from rules/ ... I don't know why you would want to do this - would get default scores of either 1.0, 0.01 or 0.001 depending on the rules type... or the negatives of those scores for nice rules. Default scores of 1.0 could be A Bad Thing(tm), for some promoted rules, which was one of the initial reasons for using generated scores. Often a 1.0 default caused FPs whereas a 0.4 score was OK.

I'm not really sure if I'm answering what you're looking for... I don't understand the line of thought/questions.

You covered it. Since the sandbox scores are now limits rather than scores, any non-generated scores for sandbox rules would come from a manually-maintained .cf file or would be the type-specific default score.

I suppose I was trying to express that falling back to the default scores might not be the best idea, as you stated. We've got a score generator, why not use it?

From your previous email I thought that maybe you wanted generated scores included in the trunk nightly rule updates.

I do think that's a good idea. Any reason _not_ to do that?

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