On 2020-03-02 10:58 p.m., Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
I'd vote for shutting it down and notifying freenode. No one has ops or
monitors it for a decade. Thanks Joe, for that link.
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 7:52 AM Joe Quinn <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 2/28/20 2:17 AM, Henrik K wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 02:58:57PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
>> I would recommend we shut it down or remove it from the wiki and
ignore it.
> Maybe just mention it's unofficial channel without active support
and should
> use lists/bugzilla. "Shutting" a channel down would be like 90's
irc wars,
> gain ops, kick everyone out, make channel invite only..
>
Let Freenode know if we're shutting it down. They distinguish between
official and "topical" channels which prevents this sort of issue.
https://freenode.net/kb/answer/namespaces
I've been in the channel since January 2, 2016. My nickname is Frogging101.
For some real data points, These are the message numbers per month since
then, from my logs:
2016-01 542
2016-02 588
2016-03 890
2016-04 435
2016-05 606
2016-06 818
2016-07 324
2016-08 456
2016-09 336
2016-10 663
2016-11 406
2016-12 776
2017-01 214
2017-02 250
2017-03 441
2017-04 85
2017-05 226
2017-06 235
2017-07 218
2017-08 162
2017-09 150
2017-10 74
2017-11 97
2017-12 215
2018-01 216
2018-02 89
2018-03 94
2018-04 101
2018-05 75
2018-06 39
2018-07 232
2018-08 232
2018-09 44
2018-10 114
2018-11 138
2018-12 63
2019-01 191
2019-02 478
2019-03 59
2019-04 40
2019-05 29
2019-06 36
2019-07 34
2019-08 234
2019-09 110
2019-10 111
2019-11 107
2019-12 21
2020-01 21
2020-02 203
2020-03 (cur.) 117
Activity is relatively low, and message count is a crude metric. But
people do use the channel, and questions get asked and answered there,
and discussions happen, however infrequently. The low activity in the
channel could very plausibly be attributed to a lack of visibility on
the website and Wiki.
In any case, I see no need to shut it down. Why not increase its
visibility instead?
This thread began with Bill Cole asking about improving the channel by
updating the topic and possibly adding new operators. It seems wrong
that a constructive proposal to improve something instead results in a
decision to simply shut it down (from people who were not even aware of
nor users of it, no less).
And FYI, Darxus is in the channel, and the topic has been fixed.
John
