I think mini batch is still useful for L-BFGS. One of the use-cases can be initialized the weights by training with the smaller subsamples of data using mini batch with L-BFGS.
Then we could use the weights trained with mini batch to start another training process with full data. Sincerely, DB Tsai ------------------------------------------------------- My Blog: https://www.dbtsai.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dbtsai On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yup that's what I expected...L-BFGS solver is in the master and gradient > computation per RDD is done on each of the workers... > > This miniBatchFraction is also a heuristic which I don't think makes sense > for LogisticRegressionWithBFGS...does it ? > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@stanford.edu> wrote: >> >> Hi Debasish, >> >> The L-BFGS solver will be in the master like GD solver, and the part >> that is parallelized is computing the gradient of each input row, and >> summing them up. >> >> I prefer to make the optimizer plug-able instead of adding new >> LogisticRegressionWithLBFGS since 98% of the code will be the same. >> >> Nice to have something like this, >> >> class LogisticRegression private ( >> var optimizer: Optimizer) >> extends GeneralizedLinearAlgorithm[LogisticRegressionModel] >> >> The following parameters will be setup in the optimizers, and they >> should because they are part of optimization parameters. >> >> var stepSize: Double, >> var numIterations: Int, >> var regParam: Double, >> var miniBatchFraction: Double >> >> Xiangrui, what do you think? >> >> For now, you can use my L-BFGS solver by copying and pasting the >> LogisticRegressionWithSGD code, and changing the optimizer to L-BFGS. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> DB Tsai >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> My Blog: https://www.dbtsai.com >> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dbtsai >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi DB, >> > >> > Are we going to clean up the function: >> > >> > class LogisticRegressionWithSGD private ( >> > var stepSize: Double, >> > var numIterations: Int, >> > var regParam: Double, >> > var miniBatchFraction: Double) >> > extends GeneralizedLinearAlgorithm[LogisticRegressionModel] with >> > Serializable { >> > >> > val gradient = new LogisticGradient() >> > val updater = new SimpleUpdater() >> > override val optimizer = new GradientDescent(gradient, updater) >> > >> > Or add a new one ? >> > >> > class LogisticRegressionWithBFGS ? >> > >> > The WithABC is optional since optimizer could be picked up either based >> > on a >> > flag...there are only 3 options for optimizor: >> > >> > 1. GradientDescent >> > 2. Quasi Newton >> > 3. Newton >> > >> > May be we add an enum for optimization type....and then under >> > GradientDescent family people can add their variants of SGD....Not sure >> > if >> > ConjugateGradient comes under 1 or 2....may be we need 4 options... >> > >> > Thanks. >> > Deb >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Debasish Das <debasish.da...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I got your checkin....I need to run logistic regression SGD vs BFGS for >> >> my >> >> current usecases but your next checkin will update the logistic >> >> regression >> >> with LBFGS right ? Are you adding it to regression package as well ? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Deb >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:00 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@stanford.edu> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys, >> >>> >> >>> The latest PR uses Breeze's L-BFGS implement which is introduced by >> >>> Xiangrui's sparse input format work in SPARK-1212. >> >>> >> >>> https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/353 >> >>> >> >>> Now, it works with the new sparse framework! >> >>> >> >>> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks. >> >>> >> >>> Sincerely, >> >>> >> >>> DB Tsai >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> My Blog: https://www.dbtsai.com >> >>> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dbtsai >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:02 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@alpinenow.com> wrote: >> >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >>> > From: David Hall <d...@cs.berkeley.edu> >> >>> > Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:02 AM >> >>> > Subject: Re: MLLib - Thoughts about refactoring Updater for LBFGS? >> >>> > To: DB Tsai <dbt...@alpinenow.com> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:56 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@alpinenow.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Hi David, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Please let me know the version of Breeze that LBFGS can be >> >>> >> serialized, >> >>> >> and CachedDiffFunction is built-in in LBFGS once you finish. I'll >> >>> >> update the PR to Spark from using RISO implementation to Breeze >> >>> >> implementation. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > The current master (0.7-SNAPSHOT) has these problems fixed. >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Sincerely, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> DB Tsai >> >>> >> Machine Learning Engineer >> >>> >> Alpine Data Labs >> >>> >> -------------------------------------- >> >>> >> Web: http://alpinenow.com/ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM, David Hall <d...@cs.berkeley.edu> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:21 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@alpinenow.com> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> Hi David, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> I can converge to the same result with your breeze LBFGS and >> >>> >> >> Fortran >> >>> >> >> implementations now. Probably, I made some mistakes when I tried >> >>> >> >> breeze before. I apologize that I claimed it's not stable. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> See the test case in BreezeLBFGSSuite.scala >> >>> >> >> https://github.com/AlpineNow/spark/tree/dbtsai-breezeLBFGS >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> This is training multinomial logistic regression against iris >> >>> >> >> dataset, >> >>> >> >> and both optimizers can train the models with 98% training >> >>> >> >> accuracy. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > great to hear! There were some bugs in LBFGS about 6 months ago, >> >>> >> > so >> >>> >> > depending on the last time you tried it, it might indeed have >> >>> >> > been >> >>> >> > bugged. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> There are two issues to use Breeze in Spark, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 1) When the gradientSum and lossSum are computed distributively >> >>> >> >> in >> >>> >> >> custom defined DiffFunction which will be passed into your >> >>> >> >> optimizer, >> >>> >> >> Spark will complain LBFGS class is not serializable. In >> >>> >> >> BreezeLBFGS.scala, I've to convert RDD to array to make it work >> >>> >> >> locally. It should be easy to fix by just having LBFGS to >> >>> >> >> implement >> >>> >> >> Serializable. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > I'm not sure why Spark should be serializing LBFGS? Shouldn't it >> >>> >> > live on >> >>> >> > the controller node? Or is this a per-node thing? >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > But no problem to make it serializable. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> 2) Breeze computes redundant gradient and loss. See the >> >>> >> >> following >> >>> >> >> log >> >>> >> >> from both Fortran and Breeze implementations. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Err, yeah. I should probably have LBFGS do this automatically, >> >>> >> > but >> >>> >> > there's >> >>> >> > a CachedDiffFunction that gets rid of the redundant calculations. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > -- David >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Fortran: >> >>> >> >> Iteration -1: loss 1.3862943611198926, diff 1.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 0: loss 1.5846343143210866, diff 0.14307193024217352 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 1: loss 1.1242501524477688, diff 0.29053004039012126 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 2: loss 1.0930151243303563, diff 0.027782962952189336 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 3: loss 1.054036932835569, diff 0.03566113127440601 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 4: loss 0.9907956302751622, diff 0.05999907649459571 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 5: loss 0.9184205380342829, diff 0.07304737423337761 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 6: loss 0.8259870936519937, diff 0.10064381175132982 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 7: loss 0.6327447552109574, diff 0.23395293458364716 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 8: loss 0.5534101162436359, diff 0.1253815427665277 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 9: loss 0.4045020086612566, diff 0.26907321376758075 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 10: loss 0.3078824990823728, diff 0.23885980452569627 >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Breeze: >> >>> >> >> Iteration -1: loss 1.3862943611198926, diff 1.0 >> >>> >> >> Mar 6, 2014 3:59:11 PM com.github.fommil.netlib.BLAS <clinit> >> >>> >> >> WARNING: Failed to load implementation from: >> >>> >> >> com.github.fommil.netlib.NativeSystemBLAS >> >>> >> >> Mar 6, 2014 3:59:11 PM com.github.fommil.netlib.BLAS <clinit> >> >>> >> >> WARNING: Failed to load implementation from: >> >>> >> >> com.github.fommil.netlib.NativeRefBLAS >> >>> >> >> Iteration 0: loss 1.3862943611198926, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 1: loss 1.5846343143210866, diff 0.14307193024217352 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 2: loss 1.1242501524477688, diff 0.29053004039012126 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 3: loss 1.1242501524477688, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 4: loss 1.1242501524477688, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 5: loss 1.0930151243303563, diff 0.027782962952189336 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 6: loss 1.0930151243303563, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 7: loss 1.0930151243303563, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 8: loss 1.054036932835569, diff 0.03566113127440601 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 9: loss 1.054036932835569, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 10: loss 1.054036932835569, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 11: loss 0.9907956302751622, diff 0.05999907649459571 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 12: loss 0.9907956302751622, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 13: loss 0.9907956302751622, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 14: loss 0.9184205380342829, diff 0.07304737423337761 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 15: loss 0.9184205380342829, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 16: loss 0.9184205380342829, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 17: loss 0.8259870936519939, diff 0.1006438117513297 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 18: loss 0.8259870936519939, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 19: loss 0.8259870936519939, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 20: loss 0.6327447552109576, diff 0.233952934583647 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 21: loss 0.6327447552109576, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 22: loss 0.6327447552109576, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 23: loss 0.5534101162436362, diff 0.12538154276652747 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 24: loss 0.5534101162436362, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 25: loss 0.5534101162436362, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 26: loss 0.40450200866125635, diff 0.2690732137675816 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 27: loss 0.40450200866125635, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 28: loss 0.40450200866125635, diff 0.0 >> >>> >> >> Iteration 29: loss 0.30788249908237314, diff 0.23885980452569502 >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Sincerely, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> DB Tsai >> >>> >> >> Machine Learning Engineer >> >>> >> >> Alpine Data Labs >> >>> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >> Web: http://alpinenow.com/ >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM, David Hall >> >>> >> >> <d...@cs.berkeley.edu> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:57 PM, DB Tsai <dbt...@alpinenow.com> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> Hi David, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:13 PM, dlwh >> >>> >> >> >> <david.lw.h...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> > I'm happy to help fix any problems. I've verified at points >> >>> >> >> >> > that >> >>> >> >> >> > the >> >>> >> >> >> > implementation gives the exact same sequence of iterates >> >>> >> >> >> > for a >> >>> >> >> >> > few >> >>> >> >> >> different >> >>> >> >> >> > functions (with a particular line search) as the c port of >> >>> >> >> >> > lbfgs. >> >>> >> >> >> > So >> >>> >> >> I'm >> >>> >> >> >> a >> >>> >> >> >> > little surprised it fails where Fortran succeeds... but >> >>> >> >> >> > only a >> >>> >> >> >> > little. >> >>> >> >> >> This >> >>> >> >> >> > was fixed late last year. >> >>> >> >> >> I'm working on a reproducible test case using breeze vs >> >>> >> >> >> fortran >> >>> >> >> >> implementation to show the problem I've run into. The test >> >>> >> >> >> will >> >>> >> >> >> be >> >>> >> >> >> in >> >>> >> >> >> one of the test cases in my Spark fork, is it okay for you to >> >>> >> >> >> investigate the issue? Or do I need to make it as a >> >>> >> >> >> standalone >> >>> >> >> >> test? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > Um, as long as it wouldn't be too hard to pull out. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Will send you the test later today. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> DB Tsai >> >>> >> >> >> Machine Learning Engineer >> >>> >> >> >> Alpine Data Labs >> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >> >> Web: http://alpinenow.com/ >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >