Is there a foolproof way to access methods exclusively (instead of picking
between columns and methods at runtime)? Here are two ideas, neither of
which seems particularly Pythonic

   - pyspark.sql.methods(df).name()
   - df.__methods__.name()

Punya

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM Nicholas Chammas <nicholas.cham...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> And a link to SPARK-7035
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-7035> (which
> Xiangrui mentioned in his initial email) for the lazy.
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:41 AM Xiangrui Meng <men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Shivaram Venkataraman
> > <shiva...@eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> > > I dont know much about Python style, but I think the point Wes made
> about
> > > usability on the JIRA is pretty powerful. IMHO the number of methods
> on a
> > > Spark DataFrame might not be much more compared to Pandas. Given that
> it
> > > looks like users are okay with the possibility of collisions in Pandas
> I
> > > think sticking (1) is not a bad idea.
> > >
> >
> > This is true for interactive work. Spark's DataFrames can handle
> > really large datasets, which might be used in production workflows. So
> > I think it is reasonable for us to care more about compatibility
> > issues than Pandas.
> >
> > > Also is it possible to detect such collisions in Python ? A (4)th
> option
> > > might be to detect that `df` contains a column named `name` and print a
> > > warning in `df.name` which tells the user that the method is
> overriding
> > the
> > > column.
> >
> > Maybe we can inspect the frame `df.name` gets called and warn users in
> > `df.select(df.name)` but not in `name = df.name`. This could be tricky
> > to implement.
> >
> > -Xiangrui
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Shivaram
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Xiangrui Meng <men...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> In PySpark, a DataFrame column can be referenced using df["abcd"]
> > >> (__getitem__) and df.abcd (__getattr__). There is a discussion on
> > >> SPARK-7035 on compatibility issues with the __getattr__ approach, and
> > >> I want to collect more inputs on this.
> > >>
> > >> Basically, if in the future we introduce a new method to DataFrame, it
> > >> may break user code that uses the same attr to reference a column or
> > >> silently changes its behavior. For example, if we add name() to
> > >> DataFrame in the next release, all existing code using `df.name` to
> > >> reference a column called "name" will break. If we add `name()` as a
> > >> property instead of a method, all existing code using `df.name` may
> > >> still work but with a different meaning. `df.select(df.name)` no
> > >> longer selects the column called "name" but the column that has the
> > >> same name as `df.name`.
> > >>
> > >> There are several proposed solutions:
> > >>
> > >> 1. Keep both df.abcd and df["abcd"], and encourage users to use the
> > >> latter that is future proof. This is the current solution in master
> > >> (https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/5971). But I think users may be
> > >> still unaware of the compatibility issue and prefer `df.abcd` to
> > >> `df["abcd"]` because the former could be auto-completed.
> > >> 2. Drop df.abcd and support df["abcd"] only. From Wes' comment on the
> > >> JIRA page: "I actually dragged my feet on the _getattr_ issue for
> > >> several months back in the day, then finally added it (and tab
> > >> completion in IPython with _dir_), and immediately noticed a huge
> > >> quality-of-life improvement when using pandas for actual (esp.
> > >> interactive) work."
> > >> 3. Replace df.abcd by df.abcd_ (with a suffix "_"). Both df.abcd_ and
> > >> df["abcd"] would be future proof, and df.abcd_ could be
> > >> auto-completed. The tradeoff is apparently the extra "_" appearing in
> > >> the code.
> > >>
> > >> My preference is 3 > 1 > 2. Your inputs would be greatly appreciated.
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Xiangrui
> > >>
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