You use kryo encoder for the whole thing?  Or just the subtree that we
don't have specific encoders for?

Also, I'm saying I like the idea of having a kryo fallback.  I don't see
the point of narrowing the the definition of the implicit.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com> wrote:

> for example (the log shows when it creates a kryo encoder):
>
> scala> implicitly[EncoderEvidence[Option[Seq[String]]]].encoder
> res5: org.apache.spark.sql.Encoder[Option[Seq[String]]] = class[value[0]:
> array<string>]
>
> scala> implicitly[EncoderEvidence[Option[Set[String]]]].encoder
> dataframe.EncoderEvidence$: using kryo encoder for
> scala.Option[Set[String]]
> res6: org.apache.spark.sql.Encoder[Option[Set[String]]] = class[value[0]:
> binary]
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com> wrote:
>
>> why would generating implicits for ProductN where you also require the
>> elements in the Product to have an expression encoder not work?
>>
>> we do this. and then we have a generic fallback where it produces a kryo
>> encoder.
>>
>> for us the result is that say an implicit for Seq[(Int, Seq[(String,
>> Int)])] will create a new ExpressionEncoder(), while an implicit for
>> Seq[(Int, Set[(String, Int)])] produces a Encoders.kryoEncoder()
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Michael Armbrust <mich...@databricks.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I realize that set is only one example here, but I don't think
>>> that making the type of the implicit more narrow to include only ProductN
>>> or something eliminates the issue.  Even with that change, we will fail to
>>> generate an encoder with the same error if you, for example, have a field
>>> of your case class that is an unsupported type.
>>>
>>> Short of changing this to compile-time macros, I think we are stuck with
>>> this class of errors at runtime.  The simplest solution seems to be to
>>> expand the set of thing we can handle as much as possible and allow users
>>> to turn on a kryo fallback for expression encoders.  I'd be hesitant to
>>> make this the default though, as behavior would change with each release
>>> that adds support for more types.  I would be very supportive of making
>>> this fallback a built-in option though.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yup, it doesnt really solve the underlying issue.
>>>>
>>>> we fixed it internally by having our own typeclass that produces
>>>> encoders and that does check the contents of the products, but we did this
>>>> by simply supporting Tuple1 - Tuple22 and Option explicitly, and not
>>>> supporting Product, since we dont have a need for case classes
>>>>
>>>> if case classes extended ProductN (which they will i think in scala
>>>> 2.12?) then we could drop Product and support Product1 - Product22 and
>>>> Option explicitly while checking the classes they contain. that would be
>>>> the cleanest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Ryan Blue <rb...@netflix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Isn't the problem that Option is a Product and the class it contains
>>>>> isn't checked? Adding support for Set fixes the example, but the problem
>>>>> would happen with any class there isn't an encoder for, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Michael Armbrust <
>>>>> mich...@databricks.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, that is unfortunate.  Maybe the best solution is to add support
>>>>>> for sets?  I don't think that would be super hard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i am trying to use encoders as a typeclass where if it fails to find
>>>>>>> an ExpressionEncoder it falls back to KryoEncoder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the issue seems to be that ExpressionEncoder claims a little more
>>>>>>> than it can handle here:
>>>>>>>   implicit def newProductEncoder[T <: Product : TypeTag]: Encoder[T]
>>>>>>> = Encoders.product[T]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this "claims" to handle for example Option[Set[Int]], but it really
>>>>>>> cannot handle Set so it leads to a runtime exception.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would it be useful to make this a little more specific? i guess the
>>>>>>> challenge is going to be case classes which unfortunately dont extend
>>>>>>> Product1, Product2, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ryan Blue
>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>> Netflix
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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