Dongjoon, I am not sure if I am not sure if I follow the line of thought here.
Multiple people have asked for clarification on what Spark 4.0 would mean (Holden, Mridul, Jia & Xiao). You can - for the record - also add me to this list. However you choose to single out Xiao because asks this question and wants to do a preview release as well? So again, what does Spark 4 mean, and why does it need to take almost a year? Historically major Spark releases tend to break APIs, but if it only entails changing to Scala 2.13 and dropping support for JDK 8, then we could also just release a month after 3.5. How about we do this? We get 3.5 released, and afterwards we do a couple of meetings where we build this roadmap. Using that, we can - hopefully - have a grounded discussion. Cheers, Herman On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:01 PM Dongjoon Hyun <dongj...@apache.org> wrote: > Thank you. I reviewed the threads, vote and result once more. > > I found that I missed the binding vote mark on Holden in the vote result > email. The following should be "-0: Holden Karau *". Sorry for this > mistake, Holden and all. > > > -0: Holden Karau > > To Hyukjin, I disagree with you at the following point because the thread > started clearly with your and Sean's Apache Spark 4.0 requirement in order > to move away from Scala 2.12. In addition, we also discussed another item > (dropping Java 8) from other current dev thread. The vote scope and goal is > clear and specific. > > > we're unclear on the picture of Spark 4.0.0. > > Instead of vote scope and result, what is really unclear is that what you > propose here. If Xiao wants a preview, Xiao can propose the preview plan > more. It's welcome. If you want to has many 4.0 dev ideas which are not > exposed to the community yet. Please share them with the community. It's > welcome, too. Apache Spark is open source community. If you don't share it, > there is no way for us to know what you want. > > Dongjoon > > On 2023/06/19 04:31:46 Hyukjin Kwon wrote: > > The major concerns raised in the thread were that we should initiate the > > discussion for the below first: > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates) > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment > > > > before setting the timeline for Spark 4.0.0 because we're unclear on the > > picture of Spark 4.0.0. So discussing the timeline 4.0.0 first is the > > opposite order procedurally. > > The vote passed as a procedural issue, but I would prefer to consider > this > > as a tentative date, and should probably need another vote to adjust the > > date considering the plans, preview dates, and items we aim for 4.0.0. > > > > > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 at 04:33, Dongjoon Hyun <dongj...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > This was a part of the following on-going discussions. > > > > > > 2023-05-28 Apache Spark 3.5.0 Expectations (?) > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/3x6dh17bmy20n3frtt3crgxjydnxh2o0 > > > > > > 2023-05-30 Apache Spark 4.0 Timeframe? > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/xhkgj60j361gdpywoxxz7qspp2w80ry6 > > > > > > 2023-06-05 ASF policy violation and Scala version issues > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb > > > > > > 2023-06-12 [VOTE] Release Plan for Apache Spark 4.0.0 (June 2024) > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/r0zn6rd8y25yn2dg59ktw3ttrwxzqrfb > > > > > > I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming detailed discussions > including > > > the following > > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Preview (and Dates) > > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Items > > > - Apache Spark 4.0.0 Plan Adjustment > > > > > > Please initiate the discussion. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Dongjoon. > > > > > > > > > On 2023/06/16 19:30:42 Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > > > > The vote passes with 6 +1s (4 binding +1s), one -0, and one -1. > > > > Thank you all for your participation and > > > > especially your additional comments during this voting, > > > > Mridul, Hyukjin, and Jungtaek. > > > > > > > > (* = binding) > > > > +1: > > > > - Dongjoon Hyun * > > > > - Huaxin Gao * > > > > - Liang-Chi Hsieh * > > > > - Kazuyuki Tanimura > > > > - Chao Sun * > > > > - Jia Fan > > > > > > > > -0: Holden Karau > > > > > > > > -1: Xiao Li * > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org > >
