Hi Jarcec,

Thanks for the explanation, make sense. Agree fully and +1 for a release.

Thanks,
 Alex

On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> I had several reasons when I've suggested this approach. Firstly, for 
> versions like 2.0.0-alpha I would expect to get 2.0.0 (without -alpha) soon 
> and without major changes. This won't be case for Sqoop as we might need to 
> do major, backward compatibility changes - it's undesirable to introduce 
> backward incompatible between minor revisions. We also most likely will 
> release several version before leaving alpha state, which might cause issues 
> to see what is and what is not considered stable. Also this first cut is very 
> far from something that might be called Sqoop 2, it contain just very basic 
> set of functionality without several most important goals of Sqoop 2. However 
> I'm aware that Hadoop is following this path [1].
> 
> Please note that I did not invented this idea. For example KDE project [2] is 
> using very similar approach for quite some time by now as you can see on 
> their archive [3]. Versions like 4.8.90 or 4.8.95 are "pre-releases" for 4.9. 
> Another example would be Ubuntu one client [4]. I would recommend taking a 
> look on  my original proposal as it contains all the information [5].
> 
> Links:
> 1 :http://mirror.nexcess.net/apache/hadoop/common/hadoop-2.0.1-alpha/ 
> 2: http://kde.org/
> 3: http://download.kde.org/unstable/
> 4: https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/stable-4-0
> 5: http://markmail.org/message/5jygqqy3oryxqdib
> 
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 03:43:38PM +0100, Alexander Alten-Lorenz wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> great.
>> Why not not use a 2.0.0.alpha version or something like that? The could be 
>> 2.1.x the first stable release. 1.99 could cause some irritation in future 
>> dialogs (1.xx vs. 2.xx).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jarek Jarcec Cecho <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sqoop fellow developers,
>>> it seems that basic import and export functionality in Sqoop 2 will be very 
>>> soon covered. Having said that I would like to propose doing "first cut" 
>>> release of Sqoop 2. My motivation to provide early bits is to get feedback 
>>> from actual users as soon as possible, so that we can incorporate good 
>>> ideas before it will become too expensive.
>>> 
>>> As we've discussed in the past [1] -  I would like to propose version 
>>> number 1.99.1. I believe that this version number implies that it's very 
>>> far from current stable 1.4 version and very very near to 2.0, but it's not 
>>> 2.0 yet. I would also like to volunteer to be the release manager for this 
>>> first cut of Sqoop 2 branch.
>>> 
>>> I'm happy to hear other's thoughts!
>>> 
>>> Jarcec
>>> 
>>> Links:
>>> 1: http://markmail.org/message/5jygqqy3oryxqdib
>> 
>> --
>> Alexander Alten-Lorenz
>> http://mapredit.blogspot.com
>> German Hadoop LinkedIn Group: http://goo.gl/N8pCF
>> 

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