Seems like a good plan to me!

Jarcec

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 08:27:11AM -0700, Gwen Shapira wrote:
> +1 to --direct
> 
> Which leads right back to the documentation.
> 
> Currently the Netezza direct connector is documented in section 24 - Notes
> for Specific Connectors.
> Which seems like the right place, and I recommend adding Oraoop there too
> (possibly with link to additional doc if this gets too long).
> 
> The documentation for MySQL and Postgres direct connectors is all over the
> place.
> I'll open a new Jira to refactor the docs and consolidate the "--direct"
> documentation into section 24. This can be done in parallel to the Oraoop
> work.
> 
> Does this make sense?
> 
> Gwen
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Venkat Ranganathan <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Why don't we use the --direct mode to say OraOop to be the connector
> > and the default to use the existing oracle connector?
> >
> > Also, as I initially mentioned, I had made changes to OraOop to
> > support Oracle wallets.   I would like to get that in after your
> > changes are in.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Venkat
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 8:22 PM, David Robson
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Yes it will be a bit confusing for users while there are two connectors
> > - perhaps we should disable OraOop by default until they are merged into
> > one connector? At least the user will only have to change a config
> > parameter to use OraOop - where previously they had to install it.
> > >
> > > At the moment they handle things differently as you said - and depending
> > on things like if there is only one mapper, or if they are importing a
> > view, they will use the default connector. Could be quite confusing for a
> > user who doesn't understand the reasons why one import has dates as longs
> > and the other as strings. At least if they have manually installed OraOop
> > in the past they have read the user's guide so know what to expect.
> > >
> > > As part of merging them into one connector we really need to make sure
> > everything is consistent between the two - I'm thinking this will be a bit
> > of work and I wanted to do it separately so at least we isolate the QA work
> > to an initial regression test of OraOop. Then we can code / test the single
> > connector at a later date.
> > >
> > > If we were to document the parameters on the wiki instead of in the
> > documentation - how do you envisage this would be structured - I can't
> > really see an example of something similar already on the wiki. It seems
> > like other connectors have put the information directly in the
> > documentation eg:
> > http://sqoop.apache.org/docs/1.4.4/SqoopUserGuide.html#_microsoft_sql_connector
> > >
> > > But the sections are quite short whereas the OraOop one could end up
> > being quite long. It looks like in Sqoop 2 the documentation will be split
> > into multiple documents - perhaps a separate page dedicated to all Oracle /
> > Sqoop topics could be included?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gwen Shapira [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2014 3:00 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Sqoop documentation
> > >
> > > And on similar/different topic:
> > >
> > > The biggest risk IMO is that once we add Oraoop as default Oracle
> > manager, users without "select dictionary" privileges will get "table not
> > found" on jobs that prior to the upgrade were successful. This breaks
> > backward compatibility in a pretty serious way.
> > >
> > > IMO, this has to be fixed before we commit the merge (and yes, I need to
> > add this comment to the review board)
> > >
> > > Gwen
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Gwen Shapira <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Random thoughts:
> > >>
> > >> The good news is that the first 10 pages ("Installing Oraoop") are
> > >> redundant.
> > >>
> > >> I'd like to look into cases where the default behavior will change
> > >> (timestamp processing for instance) and in which case we must amend
> > >> the current docs.
> > >> In cases where Oraoop offers extra functionality that the users may or
> > >> may not use (oraoop merge or partitions) we can refer users to a wiki
> > >> or another external source.
> > >>
> > >> Gwen
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:26 PM, David Robson <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I am having a look at how we could integrate the OraOop documentation
> > >>> into Sqoop. Currently it is a Flare project which we generate a PDF
> > >>> from - obviously this doesn't really fit in with the current Sqoop
> > documentation.
> > >>>
> > >>> So currently it looks like it is written in asciidoc and converted
> > >>> into docbook, then into html. We could create an asciidoc file
> > >>> related to OraOop
> > >>> - the problem is I'm not sure how well this would fit in to the
> > >>> current documentation - it is already one long page and we would
> > >>> probably be adding another 20-30 pages worth of content in.
> > >>>
> > >>> You also have a Confluence wiki - we could create a page (or pages)
> > >>> there with information.
> > >>>
> > >>> What sort of requirements are there for documentation - has someone
> > >>> got some ideas of how they would like to see the current OraOop
> > >>> documentation integrated in?
> > >>> https://github.com/QuestSoftwareTCD/OracleSQOOPconnector/blob/master/
> > >>> docs/oraoopuserguide.pdf?raw=true
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> David
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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