Hi Rupert:

I agree with you that:
1. the Entity linking is for Entities the Text
2. the Categorization is at Content or Pages Level

Could you help me with following please:

Does Categorization at content or page level mean categorization at URI level?

Are "context' along with the triples (N-Quads) allowed in Stanbol

Best Regards,

Bhoomin Pandya

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Maatari Daniel Okouya
<okouy...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> I understand better.
>
> I think the key sentence here was: “Important is that Entity Linking requires 
> an actual mention of the
> Entity in the text while categories do not depend on such mentions. "
>
>
> -So basically wether the category is based on a SKOS DataSet or Not, this 
> does not matter at all  !!!
>
> -In both case they link to a dataset, it does not matter if it is SKOS based 
> or not. The difference is how the entity to which we link comes up.
>
>
>
> Few questions here if you don’t mind. I’m not trying to reemployment things 
> here, but simply to better understand things so i can use the tool properly.
>
>
> 1) How would the information of a specific category set be fetch ? The 
> process of linking in categorisation must be different, in that you do not 
> have the type to guide you. You may well end up with synonyms, without the 
> type erros would occurs. I can see why using a controlled vocabulary would be 
> more easy. There, the disambiguation is within the label directly.
> Would you confirm my assumption here ? That categorisation with a Skos based 
> dataset (thesarus) is more easy ?
>
> 2) Is the reason for the Named Entity Recognition to limit itself to these 
> three specific Type “Pertinence” ? Also would this type be customisable, 
> meaning could you have a bit more types ?
>
>
>
> 3)  What i want to achieve is describing some content resource according to 
> schema.org. For creativeWork, it has the property “schema:about” which must 
> point to a “schema:Thing”. I presume by that, google is expecting here, 
> something else than a controlled Concept. I’m not saying that it is not 
> possible. In the sameWay, with FOAF:Topic that i would also use, I want to 
> point to the real thing rather than a control vocabulary Concept. I would 
> rather use, dc:subject for the SKOS:Concept.  Does it make sense? Can the 
> enhancement indeed, categorise according to non-skos instance, that are in an 
> external dataset?
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Maatari
>
>
>
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>
> On 22 Sep 2014 at 06:49:14, Rupert Westenthaler 
> (rupert.westentha...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hi Maatari,
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Maatari Daniel Okouya
> <okouy...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> I’m a bit confused about few concept. Could someone clarify them a bit.
>>
>>
>> When it comes to assigning some topics to a content resource, what would be 
>> the difference between entity linking and categorization ?
>>
>
> First lets explain the terminology as used by Stanbol. For that I will
> use a todays headline:
>
> "Lewis Hamilton not thinking about title after winning Singapore GP"
>
> Named Entity Recognition: Detects mentions of Entity types within the
> text. Typically Persons, Organizations and Locations
> * Lewis Hamilton -> person
> * Singapore -> location
>
> Entity Linking: Detects mentions of known Entities within the processed Text
> * Lewis Hamilton -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton
> * Singapore Grand Prix -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_Grand_Prix
>
> Categorization: Assigns the content to a fixed set of categories.
> Categories might be hierarchical. A typical example are the IPTC Media
> Topics [1] which I will use for this example.
> * sport -> http://cv.iptc.org/newscodes/mediatopic/15000000
> * Formula One -> http://cv.iptc.org/newscodes/mediatopic/20000994
>
> Important is that Entity Linking requires an actual mention of the
> Entity in the text while categories do not depend on such mentions.
>
>> What I see as of now, within some tools well established is the 
>> classification part. Usually it makes use of a control vocabulary to 
>> classify the content. Output = resource dc:Subject controledVocabularyTerm
>>
>> However, what i also see in the description of content resource online 
>> within some authority website is to link the document to external non skos 
>> resource via for instance the Foaf:Topic.
>>
>> In that second case, do we have both an entity linking and a classification 
>> ? or is it that both are the same, it is just that the knowledge base 
>> change, from external source to controlled vocabulary. Which would mean that 
>> in the world of linked data, content classification / categorization include 
>> entity linking? In that case i would say that, the same was happening when 
>> linking to a controlled vocabulary term.
>>
>
> IMO the properties used to represent analysis results do not
> necessarily indicate if the results express linked entities or
> categorizations. Based on the definition both dc:subject and
> foaf:topic they should be both used for categories.
>
>>
>> I'm little confused here. If someone, could clarify these notion i would 
>> appreciate.
>
> hope this helps
> best
> Rupert
>
> [1] http://cv.iptc.org/newscodes/mediatopic
>
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