Gav.... wrote:
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From: Martin Sebor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2008 1:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redesign Website
Gav.... wrote:
Hi All,
Martin, Can I ask what version of Forrest you are testing with
at the moment? (I guess you are testing locally)
I used 0.8 for my experiments.
The 0.9-dev trunk version is slowly improving in terms of the
dispatcher and its use of 'themes'. Otherwise 0.9-dev is not
all that different from the 0.8 version released in April last year.
I would suggest we enable the dispatcher and make use of the themes
as it is 'much' easier to use that the default 'skins'. As far as the
source xml xdoc files go there is no real difference.
Anyway, let me know when you are ready and what you want to know and/or
what you want me to do.
I haven't done much yet. I started with the demo and tried to
make changes to it to gauge how easily I could morph it something
resembling our site.
The only existing site I've seen is based on forests pelt skin, is this what
you mean or is there a site design I have missed somewhere else ?
Yes, that's what I meant. A quick job of converting the content
on our small site to a format that lends itself more easily to
the typical tasks in our world: relatively frequent edits to
the content (weekly) and fairly infrequent structural changes
(adding a page every few weeks).
I admit I was a little intimidated by all the
properties in the xml file and what seemed like a considerable
amount of work to remove the many (useful) pages from the demo and
replace them with ours, and I was struggling a little with finding
enough detail in the documentation to help me do what I was trying
to do. But I probably spent only about 3 hours with it in total,
including reading the docs, so I'm sure I missed a bunch of stuff.
I hope to get back to it sometime later this week and I'm sure I'll
have questions for you when I do.
please do.
Btw., what's the difference between Forrest and Lenya? From what
I've read, Lenya seems to work at a higher level, letting users
make changes to the site in real time, while Forrest is a lower
level tool, more suitable to our needs. Would you say that's
a fair (if overly simplistic) assessment?
Yep, Forrest is a content publishing framework, can be configured to
accept different types of input such as html,xml,xdoc,rss and many more
and convert them to different outputs such as (x)html,xdoc,txt,pdf,rss
and many more available via input/internal/output plugins. It's look and
feel can be configured somewhat to make for decent presentation, but it
needs to be remembered its initial goal is to publish data, it is not
designed to be a full blown website creation tool, but is one of its many
abilities. Lenya on the other hand is a full blown CMS - Content Management
System, designed for the web and for collaboration between teams or
individuals. Much of the design and the content can be created through a
choice of web interfaces, accounts can be created through it at differing
levels from user to author to publisher etc, each with their own levels of
access. Both Forrest and Lenya are to an extent based on Cocoon, though
Lenya has designs for Daisy and others. Anyway, I'm waffling, I think Lenya
far too big and powerful for just publishing a website such as what most
Apache Projects need.
Would recommend using Forrest if we also wanted to convert our Class
Reference and (perhaps also) User Guide from the raw HTML (generated
from master FrameMaker sources back in 2005 and maintained by hand
since then)?
http://stdcxx.apache.org/doc/stdlibref
http://stdcxx.apache.org/doc/stdlibug
If so, is there a tool that we could trust to do the conversion for
us without messing things up too much?
Thanks for your offer to help!
No probs. I guess we can continue on in the other thread now, and hopefully
others may want to join in at some stage.
Let me ping our docs guy. I'm sure he'll be very interested in your
opinion on the Class Reference and the User Guide.
Martin
Gav...
Martin
Gav...
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