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Memory Lake commented on STORM-594:
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Hi Jon, From my humble understanding, putting parallelism like that is not very 
tenable, as some components are just responsible for writing some negligible 
results and thus shouldn't be spread over the cluster.  But apart from that, I 
think the most tricky part is how would you identify the most bottlenecked 
component, and how to tackle this imbalance problem. The bottleneck could be 
either with spout whose instances are not powerful enough (so that some of the 
bolts are actually starving) or some bolts lying in the critical path that do 
not have enough parallelism hints. Since the bottleneck is absolutely 
application dependent, I believe a "good rule of thumb" is still needed in an 
universal auto-scaling system and maybe you need to address that clearly in 
your approach.

> Auto-Scaling Resources in a Topology
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: STORM-594
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-594
>             Project: Apache Storm
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: HARSHA BALASUBRAMANIAN
>            Assignee: Pooyan Jamshidi
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: Algorithm for Auto-Scaling.pdf, Project Plan and 
> Scope.pdf
>
>   Original Estimate: 504h
>  Remaining Estimate: 504h
>
> A useful feature missing in Storm topologies is the ability to auto-scale 
> resources, based on a pre-configured metric. The feature proposed here aims 
> to build such a auto-scaling mechanism using a feedback system. A brief 
> overview of the feature is provided here. The finer details of the required 
> components and the scaling algorithm (uses a Feedback System) are provided in 
> the PDFs attached.
> Brief Overview:
> Topologies may get created with or (ideally) without parallelism hints and 
> tasks in their bolts and spouts, before submitting them, If auto-scaling is 
> set in the topology (using a Boolean flag), the topology will also get 
> submitted to the auto-scale module.
> The auto-scale module will read a pre-configured metric (threshold/min) from 
> a configuration file. Using this value, the topology's resources will be 
> modified till the threshold is reached. At each stage in the auto-scale 
> module's execution, feedback from the previous execution will be used to tune 
> the resources.
> The systems that need to be in place to achieve this are:
> 1. Metrics which provide the current threshold (no: of acks per minute) for a 
> topology's spouts and bolts.
> 2. Access to Storm's CLI tool which can change a topology's resources are 
> runtime.
> 3. A new java or clojure module which runs within the Nimbus daemon or in 
> parallel to it. This will be the auto-scale module.
> Limitations: (This is not an exhaustive list. More will be added as the 
> design matures. Also, some of the points here may get resolved)
> To test the feature there will be a number of limitations in the first 
> release. As the feature matures, it will be allowed to scale more
> 1. The auto-scale module will be limited to a few topologies (maybe 4 or 5 at 
> maximum)
> 2. New bolts will not be added to scale a topology. This feature will be 
> limited to increasing the resources within the existing topology.
> 3. Topology resources will not be decreased when it is running at more than 
> the required number (except for a few cases)
> 4. This feature will work only for long-running topologies where the input 
> threshold can become equal to or greater than the required threshold



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