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Rick Kellogg updated STORM-169:
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    Labels: upgrade  (was: )

> Storm depends on outdated versions of hiccup and ring
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>
>                 Key: STORM-169
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-169
>             Project: Apache Storm
>          Issue Type: Wish
>            Reporter: James Xu
>            Priority: Minor
>              Labels: upgrade
>
> https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm/issues/707
> Storm core depends on a very old versions of
> hiccup 0.3.6 => 1.0.4
> ring-* 0.3.11 => 1.2.0
> Especially the hiccup version conflicts with modern libraries like liberator 
> (see also weavejester/hiccup#86
> IllegalStateException escape-html already refers to: 
> #'hiccup.core/escape-html in namespace: hiccup.page
> ----------
> revans2: I agree that storm depends on old versions of libraries that I would 
> love to see updated, but simply updating the versions can cause a lot of pain 
> too. Having worked through this on Hadoop the only real solution is to get to 
> true dependency isolation. There are just too many libraries that are not 
> backwards and forwards compatible in very subtle ways, even for minor 
> releases. If you upgrade one dependency to fix a specific incompatibility it 
> will break someone else with a new incompatibility.
> I am not saying that we should not do this. People should be willing to pay 
> off tech debt and upgrade, but until we can isolate a user's dependencies 
> from storm's dependencies we need to consider major dependency upgrades as 
> incompatible changes.
> ----------
> jocrau: Yes, updating versions can cause a lot of pain. But deferring every 
> update to the time when the user's dependency is isolated might also cause a 
> lot of pain and slow down the adoption of Storm in some domains (like RESTful 
> services). I would love to see a more differentiated approach. Hiccup for 
> example is only used in the Storm UI; a place where I expect little impact.
> ----------
> revans2: I totally agree. I just wanted to be sure that the storm version 
> number was bumped when we did this, so that we are indicating to downstream 
> users that something incompatible may have happened and they need to retest.
> Now that storm is a multi-module project splitting out the UI and logviewer 
> to be their own jars with separate dependencies really seems like a good 
> start for isolation. More then that gets a little bit harry but is still 
> doable.
> If you think about it the worker only needs to pull in a few clojure APIs, 
> disruptor, curator, and jzmq or netty depending on how it is configured.



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