Jungtaek, I’ve given you permissions to the Storm wiki so you can post the 
document there.

-Taylor

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Not yet. It would be good to continue discussion on this thread for now.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> 
> 2016년 8월 1일 (월) 오후 1:38, Satish Duggana <[email protected]>님이 작성:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Did we find a way to comment on the proposal? How can we proceed with this
>> discussion?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Satish.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've made a design document for adding jars and maven artifacts at
>>> submission.
>>> Since we don't have any formats for this, I just borrowed KIP format.
>>> That's not we would like to adopt that format, it's just me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f3Ed0Wa8aN2j7gtptT0BOKYMyBdpohLgERg4YebJJ7c/edit?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>> Btw, I guess ASF policy requires that discussion history should be logged
>>> to Apache Infra.
>>> (So I only grant view permission who opens the doc via link.)
>>> 
>>> So what's recommended way to do? Would we want to file an issue for JIRA
>>> with attaching design doc to PDF and discuss there?
>>> 
>>> - Jungtaek Lim
>>> 
>>> 2016년 7월 23일 (토) 오전 12:06, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]>님이 작성:
>>> 
>>>> Thought about it once more, and found that former approach still needs
>> to
>>>> add 'provided' scope libraries to extlib directory..
>>>> 
>>>> Along with thinking former approach, I've experimented a bit of latter
>>>> approach by creating POC project. Since I don't know about copy and use
>>> ASF
>>>> project codes for personal use, I'd just share main class to see if
>> this
>>>> POC and my theory makes sense for us.
>>>> https://gist.github.com/HeartSaVioR/3639a9ee829fe1203b4a085a0fb069d6
>>>> 'zeppelin' package has some classes for transitive dependency resolver
>>>> (copied from Zeppelin), and 'spark' package has some classes for
>>>> classloader (yes also copied from Spark).
>>>> 
>>>> Please share your experiences if you have knowledges regarding this
>> area.
>>>> 
>>>> - Jungtaek Lim
>>>> 
>>>> 2016년 7월 22일 (금) 오후 10:59, Bobby Evans <[email protected]>님이
>>> 작성:
>>>> 
>>>>> You can do that with a combination of the distributed cache and
>> setting
>>>>> the classpath, just like with hadoop.  It is not as clean as it could
>>> be,
>>>>> but it does work. - Bobby
>>>>> 
>>>>>    On Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:09 PM, Arun Mahadevan <
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shade and relocate the external modules sounds ok as a short term
>>>>> solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the long term we should consider something like the second option
>> to
>>>>> add external modules without shipping uber jars.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Arun
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/22/16, 6:07 AM, "Jungtaek Lim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AFAIK, we had been struggled to resolve dependency issues for
>>> storm-core.
>>>>>> As we all know, the strategy we have been using is shade &
>> relocating.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now State and Storm SQL requires that some of external modules need
>> to
>>> be
>>>>>> included to extlib, which is the classpath workers refer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-1881
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-1435
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There're two issues here:
>>>>>> - We don't make uber jar for external modules so users need to find
>> and
>>>>>> copy dependencies jars to extlib manually.
>>>>>> - External modules also use Guava and Jackson and so on which are
>>> origin
>>>>> of
>>>>>> version conflict issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So we should apply the shade & relocating strategy for every external
>>>>>> modules (at least storm-redis, storm-kafka, storm-sql-core,
>>>>>> storm-sql-kafka), or introduce the way to add the dependency without
>>>>> adding
>>>>>> them to extlib. (like --packages and --jar for Spark)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please express your opinions about this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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