Yes I agree it should be on a case by case basis, no need for anything
formal, it is just being a nice person and explaining to everyone why you
are doing something.

- Bobby

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 4:19 AM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all your voices.
>
> Regarding question, I'm not sure we can define the time and frequency for
> that. I don't mean to build a new item for bylaw. That actually depends on
> individual, and how much the issue is urgent. For example, we can't just
> wait author for inactive pull request addressing critical or even blocker
> issue, including 'effectively' blocker for release preparing phase.
>
> Personally no updates (not code update but also no comment) in two months
> feels me as inactive and high chance to become stale. Someone may feel it
> too short, so maybe leaving comment before taking over and wait some more
> for others' feedback might be better.
>
> I feel similar for no code update but just reacting as leaving a comment
> more than three months. Three months are enough long to forget about their
> context of PR.
>
> Please keep in mind that above things assume that we are reviewing pull
> requests not too late. Inactivity due to late reviewing is out of topic.
>
> Similar consideration applies to JIRA issues which is in-progress but no
> patch is available.
>
> Thanks,
> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVIoR)
>
> 2017년 9월 15일 (금) 오전 1:40, Hugo Da Cruz Louro <hlo...@hortonworks.com>님이
> 작성:
>
> > Agree. Question is what is the reasonable time frame for a response, and
> > how many times one should reach out to a person asking for a response.
> >
> > > On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Stig Rohde Døssing <
> stigdoess...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree, if the original author is not responding it seems totally fine
> > to
> > > me for someone else to finish up a PR. If the new PR is based on the
> > > previous effort, I think we should be careful to always preserve
> > authorship
> > > information. The easiest way is probably to keep the original commits.
> > > Ideally inactive PRs that we want to keep are rare enough that we can
> > live
> > > with keeping the original commits without making the commit log too
> > noisy.
> > >
> > > Amateur license parsing, so buyer beware:
> > > The way I understand "You represent that each of Your Contributions is
> > Your
> > > original creation" from the ICLA (
> > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf)
> > > is that it's probably not okay to take someone else's commits along
> with
> > > your own, squash them and submit the whole thing under your own name.
> > Point
> > > 7 mentions how to submit on behalf of others.
> > >
> > > The first comment here may also be relevant regarding license for an
> > > unmerged PR https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-156
> > >
> > > 2017-09-14 16:03 GMT+02:00 Bobby Evans <ev...@oath.com.invalid>:
> > >
> > >> I totally agree.  If you have reached out to an author and there has
> > been
> > >> no response for either a bug fix or a feature that you want, then feel
> > free
> > >> to take it over.  Just be polite about it and make sure it is clear to
> > >> everyone what you are doing.
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >> Bobby
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:19 PM Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi devs,
> > >>>
> > >>> I have seen some old pull requests for bugfix and new feature going
> to
> > be
> > >>> stale. Some of us tried to ping to author several times but not
> respond
> > >> in
> > >>> some months. For new feature we may have to wait for authors, but for
> > >>> bugfix waiting authors means we are aware of the bug but we don't fix
> > the
> > >>> bug because of credit which doesn't make sense to me if we should
> wait
> > >> for
> > >>> months.
> > >>>
> > >>> So IMHO at least we may want to handle inactive bugfix pull requests
> > not
> > >>> too late, Maybe creating new PR addressing same thing without
> retaining
> > >>> commits, or taking over PR via retaining commits. If possible it may
> be
> > >>> ideal to take over inactive but valuable pull requests with retaining
> > >>> commits.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you think about it? And does some of us know about any issues
> > >>> including license, authorship, or so if someone takes over inactive
> > pull
> > >>> request with retaining their credit (commits)?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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