Hello Stig,

Yes I can try your fix very quickly if you have a binary artifact
(storm-kafka-client.jar, I guess) which I could download.
Or "copy paste" instructions that I could use to build it (I'm sorry :
I tend to be slow at understanding how to retrieve specific pull
requests to build artifacts).

Best regards,
Alexandre

2018-05-06 10:51 GMT+02:00 Stig Rohde Døssing <[email protected]>:
> I put up what I believe should be a fix at
> https://github.com/apache/storm/pull/2663, would you be willing to try it
> out?
>
> Regarding killing the entire worker, you are right that it can be overkill
> in some cases, but there's a tradeoff you have to make. Heron runs each
> component (spout/bolt) in independent JVMs, so if e.g. the spout crashes
> there then only the JVM hosting that spout will crash and restart. They pay
> for it by having to communicate between JVMs more, since they never have
> situations where a spout can send a tuple to a bolt without having to
> serialize it and go between processes.
>
> 2018-05-06 10:38 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Vermeerbergen <[email protected]
>>:
>
>> Hello Stig,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your very fast answer and for opening
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-3059.
>>
>> Regarding my generic concern that Kafka Spout exceptions shouldn't
>> kill it's worker process, I am still concerned by the scope of the
>> "kill/recovery".
>> Indeed, a worker process generally not only hosts spouts, but also bolts.
>> The fact that a spout occasional crash leads to the killing of
>> everything else running on the same worker process seems overkill (no
>> pun intended) to me.
>>
>> To give an analogy with a web application server, it's like if we
>> would agree that an exception thrown by a servlet could lead to a kill
>> of the application server's container process. Yeah with a cluster of
>> containers and a good load balancer in front this could be OK in
>> production, but yet... I still feel this overkill.
>>
>> Back to my precise issues, is there possibility to have
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-3059 in Storm 1.2.2 final
>> ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alexandre Vermeerbergen
>>
>>
>>
>> 2018-05-06 9:58 GMT+02:00 Stig Rohde Døssing <[email protected]>:
>> > The exception is caused by the fix in STORM-2994, the new code should
>> only
>> > run in AT_LEAST_ONCE mode, not in the others.
>> >
>> > Have raised https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-3059 to fix it.
>> >
>> > I disagree that the spout should catch and swallow unknown/unexpected
>> > exceptions. Storm is designed to be fail-fast, and to restart processes
>> > when they error out unexpectedly. I don't think the spout would work any
>> > better if it caught and ignored these exceptions.
>> >
>> > 2018-05-06 9:30 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Vermeerbergen <
>> [email protected]>
>> > :
>> >
>> >> Hello All,
>> >>
>> >> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because storm-kafka-client spout
>> >> glitches can crash workers, leading to degraded performances.
>> >>
>> >> I have downloaded the binary artifacts of this storm 1.2.0rc2, copied
>> >> the binaries of storm-kafka-client, flux and flux-wrapper from the
>> >> Nessus staging repository quoted by Taylor, and ran tests on a
>> >> relatively modest configuration (1 VM for Nimbus, 1 VM for a
>> >> Supervisor node, 1 VM a Zookeeper node) with Java 8 update 172 on
>> >> CentOS 7. We use storm-kafka-client with Kafka 0.10.2.0 libs against a
>> >> large cluster of Kafka Brokers at version 1.0.1. We have ~15
>> >> topologies running on this setup.
>> >>
>> >> The first glitch I noticed is a that, unlike with Storm 1.2.0 which we
>> >> use in production, we had deserialization exceptions in of our our
>> >> Spout:
>> >> - With Storm 1.2.0, these exceptions were somehow "swallowed", and
>> >> this spout would consume nothing and not crashing its worker anyway
>> >> - With Storm 1.2.2rc2, these exceptions showed up, with a crash of the
>> >> Spout's worker process. Storm restarts the worker, and then the same
>> >> crash occurs not long afte. All this leads to many Netty errors in all
>> >> our topologies' logs, which clearly means bad performances (CPU load
>> >> quite high on the Supervisor VM)
>> >> After fixing the cause of the deserialization exception (which was in
>> >> our code), this issue disappeared.
>> >>
>> >> The second glitch which I just noticed is that we have a another
>> >> "situation" which is similar but yet a little bit different : on
>> >> another of our topologies, we have a spout throwing the following
>> >> exception, also leading to its worker's crash:
>> >>
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.560 o.a.s.k.s.KafkaSpout
>> >> Thread-6-eventKafkaSpout-executor[3 3] [INFO] Initialization complete
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.636 o.a.s.util Thread-6-eventKafkaSpout-executor[3
>> >> 3] [ERROR] Async loop died!
>> >> java.lang.NullPointerException: null
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.emitOrRetryTuple(
>> >> KafkaSpout.java:507)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.
>> >> emitIfWaitingNotEmitted(KafkaSpout.java:440)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.nextTuple(
>> >> KafkaSpout.java:308)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.daemon.executor$fn__10727$fn__10742$
>> >> fn__10773.invoke(executor.clj:654)
>> >> ~[storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.util$async_loop$fn__553.invoke(util.clj:
>> 484)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at clojure.lang.AFn.run(AFn.java:22) [clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>> >>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_172]
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.641 o.a.s.d.executor
>> >> Thread-6-eventKafkaSpout-executor[3 3] [ERROR]
>> >> java.lang.NullPointerException: null
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.emitOrRetryTuple(
>> >> KafkaSpout.java:507)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.
>> >> emitIfWaitingNotEmitted(KafkaSpout.java:440)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.kafka.spout.KafkaSpout.nextTuple(
>> >> KafkaSpout.java:308)
>> >> ~[stormjar.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.daemon.executor$fn__10727$fn__10742$
>> >> fn__10773.invoke(executor.clj:654)
>> >> ~[storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.util$async_loop$fn__553.invoke(util.clj:
>> 484)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at clojure.lang.AFn.run(AFn.java:22) [clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>> >>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_172]
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.702 o.a.s.util Thread-6-eventKafkaSpout-executor[3
>> >> 3] [ERROR] Halting process: ("Worker died")
>> >> java.lang.RuntimeException: ("Worker died")
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.util$exit_process_BANG_.doInvoke(util.
>> clj:341)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at clojure.lang.RestFn.invoke(RestFn.java:423)
>> >> [clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.daemon.worker$fn__11404$fn__11405.
>> >> invoke(worker.clj:792)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.daemon.executor$mk_executor_data$fn__
>> >> 10612$fn__10613.invoke(executor.clj:281)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at org.apache.storm.util$async_loop$fn__553.invoke(util.clj:
>> 494)
>> >> [storm-core-1.2.2.jar:1.2.2]
>> >>         at clojure.lang.AFn.run(AFn.java:22) [clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>> >>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_172]
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.706 o.a.s.d.worker Thread-15 [INFO] Shutting down
>> >> worker metricAggregation_ec2-34-248-249-45-eu-west-1-compute-
>> >> amazonaws-com_defaultStormTopic-106-1525589734
>> >> 871ced6c-14c4-4a59-a774-579bf357314f 6714
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.707 o.a.s.d.worker Thread-15 [INFO] Terminating
>> >> messaging context
>> >> 2018-05-06 06:55:49.707 o.a.s.d.worker Thread-15 [INFO] Shutting down
>> >> executors
>> >>
>> >> This exception looks like
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-3032, but I can't tell for
>> >> sure, except that the line number of the exception corresponds to this
>> >> line of KafkaSpout.java:
>> >>
>> >>                 offsetManagers.get(tp).addToEmitMsgs(msgId.offset());
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To sum up, I am voting [-1] on this 1.2.0rc2, because I have the
>> >> feeling that exceptions in Kafka Spout should be gracefully caught and
>> >> never lead to work crashes. I understand that the root cause of these
>> >> exceptions can come from the specific code we have in our topologies,
>> >> and for the 1st case I was glad to see it because it was an easy fix
>> >> on our side, but nevertheless on a production system, one can have
>> >> sometimes exceptions and the performance pain of workers crash is
>> >> simply not affordable in production.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if a JIRA already exists on this generic issue that kafka
>> >> spout exceptions should be gracefully catched (and maybe lead to
>> >> "Failed" tuples, so that there would be a tracking anyway? or at least
>> >> a log message in Storm UI ?)
>> >>
>> >> Please note that this JIRA would differ from STORM-3032 because
>> >> STORM-3032 seems to be specific to one case, where as in my opinion
>> >> the crash issue is more generic - as my two different cases show.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Alexandre Vermeerbergen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2018-05-03 19:18 GMT+02:00 P. Taylor Goetz <[email protected]>:
>> >> > CORRECTION: The Nexus staging repository for this rc is:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
>> orgapachestorm-1064
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On May 3, 2018, at 11:42 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a call to vote on releasing Apache Storm 1.2.2 (rc2)
>> >> >
>> >> > Full list of changes in this release:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-1.
>> >> 2.2-rc2/RELEASE_NOTES.html
>> >> >
>> >> > The tag/commit to be voted upon is v1.2.2:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=storm.git;a=tree;h=
>> >> 7cb19fb3befa65e5ff9e5e02f38e16de865982a9;hb=
>> e001672cf0ea59fe6989b563fb6bbb
>> >> 450fe8e7e5
>> >> >
>> >> > The source archive being voted upon can be found here:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-1.
>> >> 2.2-rc2/apache-storm-1.2.2-src.tar.gz
>> >> >
>> >> > Other release files, signatures and digests can be found here:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-1.2.2-rc2/
>> >> >
>> >> > The release artifacts are signed with the following key:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=storm.git;a=blob_
>> >> plain;f=KEYS;hb=22b832708295fa2c15c4f3c70ac0d2bc6fded4bd
>> >> >
>> >> > The Nexus staging repository for this release is:
>> >> >
>> >> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
>> orgapachestorm-1062
>> >> >
>> >> > Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Storm 1.2.2.
>> >> >
>> >> > When voting, please list the actions taken to verify the release.
>> >> >
>> >> > This vote will be open for 72 hours or until at least 3 PMC members
>> vote
>> >> +1.
>> >> >
>> >> > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Storm 1.2.2
>> >> > [ ]  0 No opinion
>> >> > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks to everyone who contributed to this release.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Taylor
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>

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