Great, thanks Bobby

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:31, Bobby Evans <ev...@oath.com.invalid> wrote:

> Julien,
>
> I have put up pull requests for the docs and for fixing some of the issues
> with LocalCluster that you found.
>
> https://github.com/apache/storm/pull/2891
>
> https://github.com/apache/storm/pull/2892
>
> The VersionInfo change is a blocker and we should fix it before releasing
> (Sorry Taylor).
>
> For the other stuff if you find more issues we can move it to a different
> thread and work through them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM Bobby Evans <ev...@oath.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll look at upgrading that version of http client too.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:15 AM Julien Nioche <
> > lists.digitalpeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've looked into it a bit more and found that SC had a dependency on
> >> storm-core and not storm-client; I've fixed this in 40612a3...
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler/commit/40612a3588d66e1d410a70b1c7e5db58d5c2ba4d
> >> >
> >> however
> >> this doesn't affect the issues I had last week.
> >>
> >> *httpclient dependency conflict*
> >> As seen last week, this is not shaded by Storm and the version used
> (4.3.3
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/storm/blob/ce984cd31a16e7fe4b983659005f1f7648455404/pom.xml#L266
> >> >)
> >> is quite old. Even within Storm, the Storm-SOLR module uses a more
> recent
> >> one (4.5
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/storm/blob/master/external/storm-solr/pom.xml#L64
> >> >).
> >> StormCrawler needs at least 4.5.5
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler/blob/master/core/pom.xml#L26
> >> >.
> >> I expect other Storm users would use *httpclient* and have a similar
> >> problem. Unless I am missing something, I can see the following
> solutions
> >> sorted by how convenient they are to me as a user:
> >>
> >>    1. the dependency is shaded by Storm
> >>    2. the dependency is upgraded to 4.5.5 by Storm
> >>    3. the dependency is shaded by StormCrawler
> >>
> >> Obviously, I'd rather not have to deal with (3) and anyone using
> >> httpclient with Storm would have to do the same.
> >>
> >> Note: I can get my topology to work by specifying a protocol
> >> implementation
> >> based on OKHttp
> >> *  http.protocol.implementation:
> >> "com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.protocol.okhttp.HttpProtocol"*
> >> *  https.protocol.implementation:
> >> "com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.protocol.okhttp.HttpProtocol"*
> >>
> >> *LocalCluster*
> >> Since removing the dependency on storm-core, I can't use LocalCluster
> >> directly. I'll create a separate branch on my test repo to try to
> >> reproduce
> >> the issue.
> >>
> >> *Documentation for Local mode*
> >> http://storm.apache.org/releases/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/Local-mode.html
> >> does not mention *--local-ttl *would be good to document it and indicate
> >> what the default value is otherwise users might wonder why their
> >> topologies
> >> run for 20 secs only.  Personally, I'd rather be able to have a default
> >> behaviour where the topology runs forever or at least be able to
> >> deactivate
> >> the TTL completely by setting it to -1.
> >>
> >> *ConfigurableTopology*
> >> I am getting a different behavior between the original
> >> ConfigurableTopology from
> >> StormCrawler
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler/blob/master/core/src/main/java/com/digitalpebble/stormcrawler/ConfigurableTopology.java
> >> >
> >> and when I extend the one in Storm
> >> <
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/storm/blob/master/storm-client/src/jvm/org/apache/storm/topology/ConfigurableTopology.java
> >> >;
> >> with the latter, any configuration found in the conf files passed in
> args
> >> to the command line are added to the default values I provide instead of
> >> replacing them. I'll investigate that further and open an issue if I
> find
> >> a
> >> bug.
> >>
> >> *Distributed mode*
> >> I managed to launch the various services and run my test topology in
> >> remote
> >> mode (by changing the protocol implementation as explained above)
> >>
> >> *Flux*
> >> http://storm.apache.org/releases/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/flux.html tells me to
> run
> >>
> >> storm jar myTopology-0.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar org.apache.storm.flux.Flux
> >> --local my_config.yaml
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *apache-storm-2.0.0/bin/storm jar target/2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> >> org.apache.storm.flux.Flux --local crawler.flux*
> >>
> >> but am getting
> >>
> >> *15:07:26.206 [main] ERROR o.a.s.f.Flux - To run in local mode run with
> >> 'storm local' instead of 'storm jar'*
> >>
> >> *so *I tried both
> >>
> >> apache-storm-2.0.0/bin/storm local target/2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> >> org.apache.storm.flux.Flux --local crawler.flux
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> *apache-storm-2.0.0/bin/storm local target/2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> >> org.apache.storm.flux.Flux crawler.flux*
> >> but in both cases I'm getting
> >>
> >> *15:12:06.784 [main] ERROR o.a.s.f.Flux - To run in local mode run with
> >> 'storm local' instead of 'storm jar'*
> >> *15:12:06.784 [main] INFO  o.a.s.LocalCluster - *
> >>
> >> * RUNNING LOCAL CLUSTER for 20 seconds.*
> >>
> >> and nothing happens, the topology just dies after 20secs without feching
> >> any URLs.
> >>
> >> I haven't tried Flux in distributed mode yet.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Julien
> >>
> >> PS: my test topology is in https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 19:32, Julien Nioche <
> >> lists.digitalpeb...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Bobby
> >> >
> >> > The dependency issue happens when I have only storm-client as a
> >> dependency
> >> > and not server.
> >> >
> >> > When trying to run it from Eclipse I had to add server to the pom, as
> >> > expected but also client as I was getting
> >> >
> >> > 19:22:13.044 [main] ERROR o.a.s.u.VersionInfo - Could not load
> >> > storm-core-version-info.properties
> >> > java.io.IOException: Resource not found
> >> > at
> >> >
> >>
> org.apache.storm.utils.VersionInfo$VersionInfoImpl.<init>(VersionInfo.java:53)
> >> > [storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> > at org.apache.storm.utils.VersionInfo.<clinit>(VersionInfo.java:41)
> >> > [storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> > at org.apache.storm.daemon.nimbus.Nimbus.<clinit>(Nimbus.java:281)
> >> > [storm-server-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> > at org.apache.storm.LocalCluster.<init>(LocalCluster.java:235)
> >> > [storm-server-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> > at org.apache.storm.LocalCluster.<init>(LocalCluster.java:156)
> >> > [storm-server-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> > at
> >> >
> >>
> com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.ConfigurableTopology.submit(ConfigurableTopology.java:74)
> >> > [classes/:?]
> >> > at com.dipe.sc.CrawlTopology.run(CrawlTopology.java:80) [classes/:?]
> >> > at
> >> >
> >>
> com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.ConfigurableTopology.start(ConfigurableTopology.java:49)
> >> > [classes/:?]
> >> > at com.dipe.sc.CrawlTopology.main(CrawlTopology.java:39) [classes/:?]
> >> >
> >> > I've put the code in https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm2  if you
> >> want
> >> > to have a look. You'll need to compile the branch 2.x of SC first
> >> > https://github.com/DigitalPebble/storm-crawler/tree/2.x
> >> >
> >> > To reproduce the ZK issue, open the project in Eclipse and run the
> >> > CrawlTopology class with "-local -conf crawler-conf.yaml" in
> arguments.
> >> >
> >> > For the dependency problem, mvn clean package followed by
> >> > /data/apache-storm-2.0.0/bin/storm local target/2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
> >> > com.dipe.sc.CrawlTopology -conf crawler-conf.yaml
> >> > should give java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
> >> >
> >>
> org.apache.http.impl.client.HttpClientBuilder.setConnectionManagerShared(Z)Lorg/apache/http/impl/client/HttpClientBuilder;
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Julien
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:26, Bobby Evans <bo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sorry I should clarify a bit.
> >> >>
> >> >> `storm local` will run things in local mode, but the classpath will
> >> >> include
> >> >> things that are not shaded.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is also true for trying to run tests from eclipse.  LocalCluster
> >> is a
> >> >> part of storm-server so you will need to pull that in just for
> testing.
> >> >> storm-client is what you want to depend on for the majority of your
> >> >> topology.
> >> >>
> >> >> The ZK issue is new to me  We have done a lot in local mode and not
> >> seen
> >> >> that as an issue.  If you can help me reproduce it I am happy to try
> >> and
> >> >> debug it to see what is happening.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> Bobby
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:21 AM Bobby Evans <bo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It is shaded in storm 2.x, but we split the classpath up, so what
> you
> >> >> want
> >> >> > to depend on is storm-client only.  I see you are pulling in
> >> storm-core
> >> >> and
> >> >> > a few other things that are not shaded, because they are only used
> by
> >> >> the
> >> >> > daemons, not the clients.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:55 AM Julien Nioche <
> >> >> > lists.digitalpeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Sorry, hit Return too quickly
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am testing Storm 2.0.0 with StormCrawler, not very successfully.
> >> One
> >> >> >> immediate issue is that I am getting a version conflict on
> >> httpclient
> >> >> as
> >> >> >> the version set by Storm is older than the one I need.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> org.apache.http.impl.client.HttpClientBuilder.setConnectionManagerShared(Z)Lorg/apache/http/impl/client/HttpClientBuilder;
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.protocol.httpclient.HttpProtocol.configure(HttpProtocol.java:141)
> >> >> >> ~[2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.protocol.ProtocolFactory.<init>(ProtocolFactory.java:69)
> >> >> >> ~[2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> com.digitalpebble.stormcrawler.bolt.FetcherBolt.prepare(FetcherBolt.java:760)
> >> >> >> ~[2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
> >> >> >> at
> >> >>
> org.apache.storm.executor.bolt.BoltExecutor.init(BoltExecutor.java:144)
> >> >> >> ~[storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> >> >> at
> >> >>
> org.apache.storm.executor.bolt.BoltExecutor.call(BoltExecutor.java:154)
> >> >> >> ~[storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> >> >> at
> >> >>
> org.apache.storm.executor.bolt.BoltExecutor.call(BoltExecutor.java:58)
> >> >> >> ~[storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> >> >> at org.apache.storm.utils.Utils$1.run(Utils.java:353)
> >> >> >> [storm-client-2.0.0.jar:2.0.0]
> >> >> >> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748) [?:1.8.0_191]
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Here is the classpath when calling *storm local ....*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *16:38:03.445 [main] INFO  o.a.s.s.o.a.z.ZooKeeper - Client
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> environment:java.class.path=/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/*:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/log4j-over-slf4j-1.6.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/hadoop-auth-2.6.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jaxb-api-2.3.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/kryo-shaded-3.0.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/kryo-3.0.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-cli-1.4.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/log4j-slf4j-impl-2.11.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-continuation-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/httpclient-4.3.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-io-2.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-collections-3.2.2.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/guava-16.0.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/metrics-graphite-3.2.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-http-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/tools.logging-0.2.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-util-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/rocksdbjni-5.8.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-fileupload-1.3.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/curator-framework-4.0.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jackson-dataformat-smile-2.9.4.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/asm-5.0.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-io-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/chill-java-0.8.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/curator-client-4.0.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/httpcore-4.3.2.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/log4j-api-2.11.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-security-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/storm-clojure-2.0.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-compress-1.16.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-server-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/netty-3.7.0.Final.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/json-simple-1.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/junit-4.12.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-servlet-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/objenesis-2.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jetty-servlets-9.4.7.v20170914.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/carbonite-1.5.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/storm-server-2.0.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/shaded-deps-2.0.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/javax.servlet-api-3.1.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-logging-1.1.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jline-0.9.94.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/storm-client-2.0.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/snakeyaml-1.11.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/hamcrest-core-1.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/minlog-1.3.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/slf4j-api-1.7.21.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/log4j-core-2.11.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-exec-1.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/storm-core-2.0.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/jackson-core-2.9.4.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/zookeeper-3.4.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-lang-2.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/clojure-1.7.0.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/metrics-core-3.2.6.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/reflectasm-1.10.1.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/commons-codec-1.11.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/lib/joda-time-2.3.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/extlib/*:target/2-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/conf:/data/apache-storm-2.0.0/bin*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This doesn't happen with Storm 1.2.2. Aren't these libs supposed
> to
> >> be
> >> >> >> shaded by Storm?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Another issue is when I try to launch a topology from Eclipse (as
> I
> >> was
> >> >> >> able to do with Storm 1.x), even when adding
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *<dependency>*
> >> >> >> * <groupId>org.apache.storm</groupId>*
> >> >> >> * <artifactId>storm-server</artifactId>*
> >> >> >> * <version>2.0.0</version>*
> >> >> >> * </dependency>*
> >> >> >> * <dependency>*
> >> >> >> * <groupId>org.apache.storm</groupId>*
> >> >> >> * <artifactId>storm-core</artifactId>*
> >> >> >> * <version>2.0.0</version>*
> >> >> >> * </dependency>*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> as suggested by
> >> >> >> http://storm.apache.org/releases/2.0.0-SNAPSHOT/Local-mode.html,
> >> there
> >> >> >> seems to be an issue with ZK. The 2nd dependency is not mentioned
> on
> >> >> that
> >> >> >> page but seems to be needed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> *16:50:53.041 [ProcessThread(sid:0 cport:-1):] INFO
> >> >> >> o.a.s.s.o.a.z.s.PrepRequestProcessor - Got user-level
> >> KeeperException
> >> >> when
> >> >> >> processing sessionid:0x1668d05b0630007 type:create cxid:0x2
> >> zxid:0x28
> >> >> >> txntype:-1 reqpath:n/a Error
> >> Path:/storm/blobstoremaxkeysequencenumber
> >> >> >> Error:KeeperErrorCode = NoNode for
> >> >> /storm/blobstoremaxkeysequencenumber*
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> and the topology never starts. I could, of course, rely on "storm
> >> >> local"
> >> >> >> but being able to run a local topology without installing Storm is
> >> >> quite
> >> >> >> nice for users who just want to give it a try.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any thoughts?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Julien
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 16:40, Julien Nioche <
> >> >> >> lists.digitalpeb...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am testing Storm 2.0.0 with StormCrawler, not very
> successfully
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 at 20:48, P. Taylor Goetz <
> ptgo...@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> This is a call to vote on releasing Apache Storm 2.0.0 (rc3)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Full list of changes in this release:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-2.0.0-rc3/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The tag/commit to be voted upon is v2.0.0:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=storm.git;a=commit;h=d2d6f40344e6cc92ab07f3a462d577ef6b61f8b1
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The source archive being voted upon can be found here:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-2.0.0-rc3/apache-storm-2.0.0-src.tar.gz
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Other release files, signatures and digests can be found here:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/storm/apache-storm-2.0.0-rc3/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The release artifacts are signed with the following key:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=storm.git;a=blob_plain;f=KEYS;hb=22b832708295fa2c15c4f3c70ac0d2bc6fded4bd
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The Nexus staging repository for this release is:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachestorm-1072
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache Storm 2.0.0.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> When voting, please list the actions taken to verify the
> release.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Storm 2.0.0
> >> >> >> >> [ ]  0 No opinion
> >> >> >> >> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Thanks to everyone who contributed to this release.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> -Taylor
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
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