I agree with Taylor, and suggest Taylor as the new PMC chair (he is the former Storm PMC chair, has rich experience in community operation and management).
Rui Abreu <rui.ab...@gmail.com> 于2023年2月3日周五 08:21写道: > Storm is a very successful project, even before the major re-write that > happened on version 2.x. > The community has been slowing down over the last couple of years, but > perhaps that is a reflection of the maturity level of the project, where > there are no major bugs or feature requests. So I like to think Storm is > very much not dead, but that's for the community to decide. > Taylor, thanks for stepping up. I agree that lowering the bar can be the > way to go. > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 06:07 P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> IMO, there are tow scenarios: >> >> 1. Storm is in dead. No one uses it anymore, and no one needs security >> patches, etc. >> 2. Storm is in maintenance mode. While new features may not be added, >> there are enough contributors left tp at least address any security >> concerns. >> >> Wether we pursue the attic o projectr continuation is really up to the >> community. Anyone who want to step up and help continue the project should >> be considered a PMC candidate. >> >> As I’ve said in other threads, I’m willing to act as PMC chair whatever >> the PMC decides. >> >> But for now we have ne official liaison to ther ASF board. PMC members >> need to elect a chair, whether we choose to continue or head to the attic. >> >> I would lean toward lowering the bar for PMC membership to anyone >> interested in ongoing maintenance. >> >> I’m still willing to serve as the board liaison (PMC Chair) in either >> case of retirement or continuation. I’d also support anyone else willing to >> take the position. The position needs to be filled either way. >> >> This is a decision that affects both developers and users. Thank you >> Aaron for bringing it to the attention of the broader community. >> >> -Taylor >> >> On Feb 1, 2023, at 9:26 PM, sunil yadav <raosutn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> One side note looking to see what folks are migrating or moved to if not >> using Storm actively. Any cloud native DAG platform to recommend? >> >> -Sunil >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:12 PM Stephen Powis via user < >> u...@storm.apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Ah Yea, also not opposed to the move to the attic if it's determined to >>> be most appropriate, but I had a similar experience as Richard where I >>> submitted some PRs, asked for comments/thoughts/review, and even offered to >>> take over ownership of one of the sub modules and got no responses. >>> Perhaps I just submitted under the wrong forum to get an answer, but >>> definitely a bummer, and would love to see the project/community get >>> revived. >>> >>> - Stephen >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:09 PM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Aaron, >>>> >>>> I am CC the users@ list as they weren't contained in the initial >>>> proposal. Perhaps, there are people or institutions in the wild, who >>>> want to volunteer or give it a try (still at the ASF level). >>>> >>>> Of course it shouldn't prevent a VOTE for moving to the attic, but an >>>> additional try to get some more attention (if needed). >>>> >>>> Gruß >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> Am Dienstag, dem 31.01.2023 um 08:00 -0600 schrieb Aaron Niskode- >>>> Dossett: >>>> > Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number of >>>> > responses I >>>> > am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow. >>>> > >>>> > One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean the end of >>>> > Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to continue the >>>> > work >>>> > (just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside of the >>>> > ASF. >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Hi all, >>>> > > >>>> > > I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I did provide >>>> > > some >>>> > > PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get any >>>> > > feedback, >>>> > > although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we need some >>>> > > sort >>>> > > of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain Storm in >>>> > > a >>>> > > sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP). >>>> > > >>>> > > Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler, which >>>> > > relies on >>>> > > Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I am also >>>> > > happy >>>> > > to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed. >>>> > > >>>> > > Gruß >>>> > > Richard >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 +0000 schrieb Bipin Prasad: >>>> > > > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor Storm. Not >>>> > > > quite sure about the process. >>>> > > > Thanks—Bipin Prasad >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode-Dossett < >>>> > > > doss...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Hello Storm developer community, >>>> > > > >>>> > > > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and the >>>> > > > Project >>>> > > > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active members. The PMC >>>> > > > chair >>>> > > > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since volunteered >>>> > > > to >>>> > > > assume >>>> > > > those duties. I myself am an inactive PMC member. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving this >>>> > > > project to >>>> > > > the >>>> > > > Attic [1]. I would view this as the natural culmination of a >>>> > > > very >>>> > > > successful Apache project and not as a mark of failure. There >>>> > > > are >>>> > > > many, >>>> > > > many successful and influential projects in the attic. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to reconstitute >>>> > > > the >>>> > > > PMC >>>> > > > with *new members* of the development community willing to take >>>> > > > on >>>> > > > the >>>> > > > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the Apache >>>> > > > Software >>>> > > > Foundation board. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested in that >>>> > > > role. >>>> > > > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic is >>>> > > > appropriate. A >>>> > > > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in the >>>> > > > future. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Thanks you for your time, >>>> > > > Aaron >>>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > [1] >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$ >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> >>>> >> -- Thanks, Xin