I agree with Taylor, and suggest Taylor as the new PMC chair (he is the
former Storm PMC chair, has rich experience in community operation and
management).

Rui Abreu <rui.ab...@gmail.com> 于2023年2月3日周五 08:21写道:

> Storm is a very successful project, even before the major re-write that
> happened on version 2.x.
> The community has been slowing down over the last couple of years, but
> perhaps that is a reflection of the maturity level of the project, where
> there are no major bugs or feature requests. So I like to think Storm is
> very much not dead, but that's for the community to decide.
> Taylor, thanks for stepping up. I agree that lowering the bar can be the
> way to go.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 06:07 P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IMO, there are tow scenarios:
>>
>> 1. Storm is in dead. No one uses it anymore, and no one needs security
>> patches, etc.
>> 2. Storm is in maintenance mode. While new features may not be added,
>> there are enough contributors left tp at least address any security
>> concerns.
>>
>> Wether we pursue the attic o projectr continuation is really up to the
>> community. Anyone who want to step up and help continue the project should
>> be considered a PMC candidate.
>>
>> As I’ve said in other threads, I’m willing to act as PMC chair whatever
>> the PMC decides.
>>
>> But for now we have ne official liaison to ther ASF board. PMC members
>> need to elect a chair, whether we choose to continue or head to the attic.
>>
>> I would lean toward lowering the bar for PMC membership to anyone
>> interested in ongoing maintenance.
>>
>> I’m still willing to serve as the board liaison (PMC Chair) in either
>> case of retirement or continuation. I’d also support anyone else willing to
>> take the position.  The position needs to be filled either way.
>>
>> This is a decision that affects both developers and users. Thank you
>> Aaron for bringing it to the attention of the  broader community.
>>
>> -Taylor
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2023, at 9:26 PM, sunil yadav <raosutn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> One side note looking to see what folks are migrating or moved to if not
>> using Storm actively. Any cloud native DAG platform to recommend?
>>
>> -Sunil
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 6:12 PM Stephen Powis via user <
>> u...@storm.apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah Yea, also not opposed to the move to the attic if it's determined to
>>> be most appropriate, but I had a similar experience as Richard where I
>>> submitted some PRs, asked for comments/thoughts/review, and even offered to
>>> take over ownership of one of the sub modules and got no responses.
>>> Perhaps I just submitted under the wrong forum to get an answer, but
>>> definitely a bummer, and would love to see the project/community get
>>> revived.
>>>
>>> - Stephen
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 10:09 PM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> I am CC the users@ list as they weren't contained in the initial
>>>> proposal. Perhaps, there are people or institutions in the wild, who
>>>> want to volunteer or give it a try (still at the ASF level).
>>>>
>>>> Of course it shouldn't prevent a VOTE for moving to the attic, but an
>>>> additional try to get some more attention (if needed).
>>>>
>>>> Gruß
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag, dem 31.01.2023 um 08:00 -0600 schrieb Aaron Niskode-
>>>> Dossett:
>>>> > Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number of
>>>> > responses I
>>>> > am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow.
>>>> >
>>>> > One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean the end of
>>>> > Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to continue the
>>>> > work
>>>> > (just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside of the
>>>> > ASF.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla <r...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi all,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I did provide
>>>> > > some
>>>> > > PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get any
>>>> > > feedback,
>>>> > > although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we need some
>>>> > > sort
>>>> > > of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain Storm in
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP).
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler, which
>>>> > > relies on
>>>> > > Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I am also
>>>> > > happy
>>>> > > to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Gruß
>>>> > > Richard
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 +0000 schrieb Bipin Prasad:
>>>> > > > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor Storm. Not
>>>> > > > quite sure about the process.
>>>> > > > Thanks—Bipin Prasad
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode-Dossett <
>>>> > > > doss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Hello Storm developer community,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and the
>>>> > > > Project
>>>> > > > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active members.  The PMC
>>>> > > > chair
>>>> > > > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since volunteered
>>>> > > > to
>>>> > > > assume
>>>> > > > those duties.  I myself am an inactive PMC member.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving this
>>>> > > > project to
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > Attic [1].  I would view this as the natural culmination of a
>>>> > > > very
>>>> > > > successful Apache project and not as a mark of failure.  There
>>>> > > > are
>>>> > > > many,
>>>> > > > many successful and influential projects in the attic.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to reconstitute
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > PMC
>>>> > > > with *new members* of the development community willing to take
>>>> > > > on
>>>> > > > the
>>>> > > > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the Apache
>>>> > > > Software
>>>> > > > Foundation board.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested in that
>>>> > > > role.
>>>> > > > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic is
>>>> > > > appropriate.  A
>>>> > > > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in the
>>>> > > > future.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Thanks you for your time,
>>>> > > > Aaron
>>>> > > >
>>>>
>>> > > > [1]
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://attic.apache.org/__;!!DCbAVzZNrAf4!FDOUbKYpvz6tgLpyOZoJcYfuR1asy2k3NEI5NZVLzpP4SjhO8CmSTJ1eT37qrLCn1LaATZs3gwa_5Q$
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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Thanks,
Xin

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