Hi Mike,

Thanks for the detailed explanation of your question. Currently we do not
have the capability to do this in runtime for a specific cartridge. However
we could reduce the global scaling decision interval. This needs to be
configured at three locations:

1. Cartridge agent statistics publishing interval (default: 15 seconds)
2. CEP execution plan/faulty member detection interval (default: 1 min)
3. Autoscaler cluster monitor interval (default: 90 seconds)

I did not clearly get what you mean by 'transition compensated'. Is there a
way to explain it further?

Thanks


On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Michael Hall (michaha2) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi Dev,
>
>  Thanks for your response Imesh, if its ok, I’d like to skip straight to
> my (rather lengthy) question:
>
>  Does the autoscaler have, currently or plans to introduce, a means to
> receive an asynchronous event, signalling that a cartridge has gone from
> ‘SPAWNED’ to ‘ACTIVE’, after it is launched from a 'scale-up’ decision, so
> that, scaling decision interval can decrease to approximately the metric
> update interval, and multiple cartridges are not spawned when only one is
> needed?
>
>  In more depth:
>
>  The reasons for my question being that by knowing a cartridge is in the
> ‘SPAWNED’ or ’TERMINATING’ state, the aggregated metric averages can be
> ’transition compensated’ I.e…
> *transistion-compensated-agg-ave = agg-ave * ( cluster-size / cluster-size
> +  cluster-spawned-size - cluster–terminating-size )*
>  To allow the scaling decisions to occur on a continuous (only throttled
> by the metric update frequency) basis.
>
>  It appears that currently scaling decision occurs ~minutes. If this
> becomes ~seconds, it would vastly improving the maximum rate of ascent a
> cluster can scale against sudden increase in load.
>
>  It appears that there is no spawning state awareness, which also means
> several ‘redundant’ instances get spawned, when instance startup time is
> greater than the scale decision interval.
>
>  Finally:
>
>  Are there difficulties in tracking ‘SPAWNED’ to ‘ACTIVE’ state on a per
> cartridge basis, how does this align (if its a valid enhancement) with
> other potential improvements that could be made to the autoscaler?
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Mike
>
>   From: Imesh Gunaratne <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:16
> To: dev <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: autoscale architecture
>
>   Hi Michael,
>
>  Yes you can ask any questions you have on Autoscaling here.
>
>  I don't think we have documented Autoscaling feature in 4.1.0 at the
> moment. However you could find some information here [1]. Autoscaling has
> slightly changed with Composite Application Model.
>
>  [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.1.0+Autoscaler
>
>  Thanks
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Michael Hall (michaha2) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Devs,
>>
>>  Is there a resource or contact that can help me understand the current,
>> and planned architecture of the autoscaling feature within Stratos.
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>>
>>  Mike
>>
>
>
>
>  --
>  Imesh Gunaratne
>
> Technical Lead, WSO2
> Committer & PMC Member, Apache Stratos
>



-- 
Imesh Gunaratne

Technical Lead, WSO2
Committer & PMC Member, Apache Stratos

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