Thank you Sajith.  It seems we could leverage this grouping property as a short 
term solution to manage cartridges while we're waiting for a longer term 
solution.

-Jeffrey

From: Sajith Kariyawasam <saj...@wso2.com<mailto:saj...@wso2.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:20 AM
To: jeffrngu <jeffr...@cisco.com<mailto:jeffr...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>" 
<dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>>, 
"Martin Eppel (meppel)" <mep...@cisco.com<mailto:mep...@cisco.com>>
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Grouping of services (cartridges)


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Jeffrey Nguyen (jeffrngu) 
<jeffr...@cisco.com<mailto:jeffr...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Hi Martin,

I just saw this commit e20b3ea41b9f692f16567cce4e8cc7dc241e5ce6 (Adding 
internal repo based cartridge subscription. Adding service group property to 
Cartridge definition) today.   Looks like Sajith just added an enhancement to 
allow grouping of services.

Sajith,

Can you comment on the use of the new service group property?


Hi Jeffrey,

I added that property to allow simple grouping of cartridges. Cartridges having 
the same group name will be displayed in a group in UI so that subscriptions 
can be done to that group.

Thanks,
Sajith

Thanks,
-Jeffrey



From: Lakmal Warusawithana <lak...@wso2.com<mailto:lak...@wso2.com>>
Reply-To: 
"dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>" 
<dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:17 PM
To: "dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>" 
<dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org<mailto:dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Grouping of services (cartridges)

Hi Martin,

As Nirmal mention, we can looked at CAMP support for composite application 
deployment. It is great if you can do some R&D on it. We have to focus on 
following, which came to my mind at this point

  *   How we can group cartridges (cartridge type, versioning etc.)
  *   Need to identifying cupeling pattens. loosely coupled or tiredly coupled. 
For eg. some scenario we have to group application cartridge with data 
cartridges, in that case best is run in single network partition. This is 
somewhat tiredly coupled. So scaling them into deferent region, we have to 
maintain these coupling. (sometime we have to maintain ratio of the cartridge 
dependency)
  *   How can we deploy composite application artifacts into relevant 
cartridges. (single repository maintain artifacts for all group cartridges. 
Artifact distribution coordinator which reside in SM need to distribute among 
dependance cartridges)
  *   think about scale up/down scenarios
  *   Start dependancies

IMO we can bring this support on 4.1.0/4.2.0 release.

thanks


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Nirmal Fernando 
<nirmal070...@gmail.com<mailto:nirmal070...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Martin,

Sometime back Paul suggested Stratos to use the CAMP specification 
http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/08/CAMP-PaaS

May be you can get some ideas out of it.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Martin Eppel (meppel) 
<mep...@cisco.com<mailto:mep...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am looking into some enhancements to the stratos controller that would allow 
us to group cartridges (= services) together and have them behave in synch like 
a group.

Examples would be
- maintaining a boot sequence (e.g. for service A to boot up service B needs to 
be up, etc ...),
- scaling of a group of services (if service A needs to scale up, service B and 
C also need to scale up)
- restart (e.g. based on health monitoring, e.g. if service B is unhealthy 
restart service B and A)

Some idea which comes to mind is to define the dependencies and extend current 
autoscaler rules to handle the various scenarios or define a new message type 
which could trigger specific rules.

Any thoughts on that how to support this ?

Thanks

Martin



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Senior Software Engineer, WSO2 Inc.

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