Hi huajie:

> If it is manually entered, it will always be treated as ordinary text.

Users always copy some code from an old job to a new job.
I'm afraid it might not meet the user's expectations.

Best,
fanrui

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 3:12 PM Huajie Wang <[email protected]> wrote:

> hi 田向阳:
>
> The current discussion is about variable management, which is a relatively
> independent function, No other modules involved, you can check the thread
> [1]
>
>
> [1] thread:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/s9sjpkjn6spvq07bk34cfd3vln7rjo0m
>
>
> Best,
> Huajie Wang
>
>
>
> 田向阳 <[email protected]> 于2022年10月8日周六 13:13写道:
>
> > is this module include a resource management cente r where jars can be
> > chosen to provide to create a job
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- 回复的原邮件 ----
> > | 发件人 | Huajie Wang<[email protected]> |
> > | 日期 | 2022年10月08日 12:07 |
> > | 收件人 | [email protected]<[email protected]> |
> > | 抄送至 | |
> > | 主题 | Re: [DISCUSS][issue-1477] Add variable management module |
> > hi 阿穆:
> > Thank you for the clarification, My question is answered, but now I have
> > one more concern,
> > I'm currently using {var} for variables, and I'm worried that one of the
> > user's parameters includes "{" and "}", e.g :
> >
> > --password 'mypass{123}abc'
> >
> > So how do we parse parse this?  How about ${var}
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Huajie Wang
> >
> >
> >
> > 阿穆 <[email protected]> 于2022年10月8日周六 11:36写道:
> >
> > > Hi, monster, Huajie Wang, Rui Fan:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > >
> > > I have integrated your replies. I really don't pay much attention to
> SQL,
> > > so I will do the following.
> > >
> > > 1.Each team has independent variables that do not affect each other and
> > > are isolated from each other, but the same variable is unique under the
> > > same team, so you need to specify the team when creating variables
> (users
> > > may belong to multiple teams, and the teams of the current user will be
> > > displayed here for users to choose)
> > > 2.For Flink jar jobs, there are two ways to pass variables
> > > - By using placeholders, such as adding --kafka {mykafka} to the args
> of
> > > the application, 'mykafka' is the variable code of a variable
> > > - Search by variable code or variable name. After a variable is
> selected,
> > > the parameter transfer method is displayed
> > > 3.Flink sql will use variables as placeholders, E.g:
> > >
> > > CREATE TABLE KafkaTableA (
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT,
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `type` STRING
> > > ) WITH (
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' = 'user_behaviorA',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.bootstrap.servers' = '{kafka_clusterA}',&nbsp;
> > --
> > > 'kafka_ ClusterA' is the variable code
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' = 'testGroupA',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' = 'earliest-offset',
> > > &nbsp; &nbsp;
> > > CREATE TABLE KafkaTableB (
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT
> > > ) WITH (
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' = 'user_behaviorB',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.bootstrap.servers' = '{kafka_clusterB}',&nbsp;
> > --
> > > 'kafka_ ClusterB' is the variable code
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' = 'testGroupB',
> > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' = 'earliest-offset',
> > >
> > > INSERT INTO KafkaTableA SELECT user_id, item_id, '{type}' FROM
> > > KafkaTableB&nbsp;&nbsp; -- 'type' is the variable code
> > >
> > > 4.In the future, we can consider setting some system built-in variables
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > ChunJin Mu
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 8:27 PM Rui Fan <[email protected]&gt;
> wrote:
> > >
> > > &gt; Hi 阿穆:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; It's a great proposal.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; For usage scenarios, I strongly recommend support for replacing
> > > variables
> > > &gt; in sql. E.g:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; CREATE TABLE KafkaTable (
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT
> > > &gt; ) WITH (
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' = 'user_behavior',
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.bootstrap.servers' =
> > '{kafka_clusterA}',
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' = 'testGroup',
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' = 'earliest-offset',
> > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'format' = 'csv'
> > > &gt; )
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Note: 'properties.bootstrap.servers' = '{kafka_clusterA}',
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; For variable management, I have some question:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 1. Is the parameter used within the team? If all teams use a
> common
> > > &gt; parameter, it
> > > &gt; needs to be defined for each team, right?
> > > &gt; 2. Which users can modify variables? Can all users modify all
> > > variables of
> > > &gt; their team?
> > > &gt; After the variable is modified incorrectly, many jobs may be
> > > affected. So I
> > > &gt; suggest that
> > > &gt; only team admin or system admin have permission to modify, add and
> > > delete
> > > &gt; variables.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Best
> > > &gt; fanrui
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:01 PM Huajie Wang <[email protected]&gt;
> wrote:
> > >
> > > &gt; hi 阿穆:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Thanks for starting a very useful discussion, I have a some
> > questions:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 1. The access boundary problem of variable management, is this all
> > > &gt; people in the platform can access these variables( no matter who
> > > &gt; defines) or that only team members can be access these variables.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 2. There are two usage scenarios for variables that I know of, one
> > is
> > > &gt; in the entry parameter of main, and the other is in flinksql. Are
> > both
> > > &gt; supported, or only supported main entry ?
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; about first question, my opinion:
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 1. The variable management is associated with the team. After the
> > user
> > > &gt; logs in to the system, he must select a team (a user can belong to
> > one
> > > &gt; or more teams), The variable belongs to a team
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 2. All resources between teams are isolated, which means that
> > > &gt; variables are also isolated. In short, members of a team can use
> and
> > > &gt; define these variables, which are invisible to other members, and
> > > &gt; other members cannot use these variables.
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Welcome to your views
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Best,
> > > &gt; Huajie Wang
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; 陈卓宇 <[email protected]&gt; 于2022年10月7日周五 14:18写道:
> > >
> > > &gt; &gt; Is it possible to do this variable support in sql as well
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; 阿穆 <[email protected]&gt; 于2022年10月7日周五 13:54写道:
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi guys,
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; I want to start a discussion about the variable
> management
> > > module. Please
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; see this issue issue-1477.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Background:
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; In the actual production environment, Flink jobs are
> > > generally complex,
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; and usually require multiple external components. For
> > > example, Flink jobs
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; consume data from Kafka, then connect external
> components
> > > such as HBase
> > > &gt; &gt; or
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Redis to obtain additional business information, and
> then
> > > write it to the
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; downstream external components. There are the following
> > > problems:
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. The connection information of external components,
> such
> > > as IP, port
> > > &gt; &gt; and
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; user password, needs to be configured in the application
> > > args and
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; transferred to the Flink job, so that the connection
> > > information of
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; external components is distributed in multiple
> > > applications. Once the
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; connection information of external components changes,
> > many
> > > application
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; args parameters need to be modified, which will lead to
> > > high operation
> > > &gt; &gt; and
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; maintenance costs.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. There are many people in the team developing
> real-time
> > > computing jobs.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; There is no uniform specification for the connection
> > > information of the
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; external components passed to the job, resulting in
> > > different parameter
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; names of the same component. This is difficult to count
> > > which external
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; components are dependent.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 3. In production practice, there are usually multiple
> sets
> > > of
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; environments, such as test environment and production
> > > environment. It is
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; not intuitive to judge whether a component belongs to a
> > > test environment
> > > &gt; &gt; or
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; a production environment simply through IP and ports.
> Even
> > > if it can be
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; judged, there are some omissions. In this way, the
> > > connection information
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; online to the production environment may be external
> > > components of the
> > > &gt; &gt; test
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; environment, or components of the production environment
> > are
> > > &gt; &gt; inadvertently
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; configured during testing, leading to production
> failures.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Proposal:
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. Create a unified module to manage variables. Users
> can
> > > define their
> > > &gt; &gt; own
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; variables in this module. Variable information includes
> > > variable code
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; (passed to Flink program as parameter name), variable
> > > value, variable
> > > &gt; name,
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; variable description, and which applications depend on
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. In the same Team module, the variable code or
> variable
> > > name is unique
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; - By using placeholders, such as adding -- kafka
> {mykafka}
> > > to the args of
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the application, mykafka is the variable code of a
> > variable
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; - Search by variable code or variable name. After a
> > > variable is selected,
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the parameter transfer method is displayed
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; If you have any suggestions, welcome to participate in
> the
> > > discussion on
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the mail list or issue, I look forward to your feedback.
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Best wishes
> > > &gt; &gt;
> >
>

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