Hi fanru,

> I have a little question. If I copy some sql from a old app, and the sql
includes some placeholders. These placeholders will take effect in the
new app, right?

yes, the copied placeholder will take effect if the variable exists.

I have added all the information to proposal issue-1477[1],include the
questions you asked above, if there is more discussion later, I will add
this to the proposal.

[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark/issues/1477


Rui Fan <[email protected]> 于2022年10月15日周六 13:17写道:

> Hi chunjin,
>
> Thanks for your detailed information.
>
> > When the focus is lost, it is judged whether there is a variable
> placeholder, and if so, a verification button is displayed to prompt the
> user to perform verification. When the user clicks the verification button,
> the replaced content of the placeholder is displayed, and only the user
> clicks the verification button to click the submit button
>
> I have a little question. If I copy some sql from a old app, and the sql
> includes some placeholders. These placeholders will take effect in the
> new app, right?
>
> BTW, could you add all information to your proposal issue-1477[1]?
> The mail list is for discussion only, and we should maintain the final
> solution in the Proposal.
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-streampark/issues/1477
>
> Best
> fanrui
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 11:56 AM Chunjin Mu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Thanks for the discussion and great suggestions.
> >
> > Here I summarize the functions to be completed in version 1.2.4
> >
> > 1.The table structure of the variable contains the following main
> contents
> > - variable code is placeholder, For example the variable code is
> > "collect.kafka.cluster", it will be referenced as
> ${collect.kafka.cluster},
> > it is unique within a team
> > - variable name is removed, after discussion, it is not necessarily
> > retained
> > - variable value is the value of a specific variable, such as ip and port
> > - description is a detailed introduction
> > - team is the team the variable belongs to
> >
> > 2.Basic functions of variable management
> > - Add and modify variables: need to check whether the variable code is
> > unique under the current team
> > - Deleting a variable: It is necessary to check whether it has been
> > referenced by the Application under the team to which the variable
> belongs.
> > If there is metadata management in the future, it is also necessary to
> > check whether it has been referenced by the metadata. If it is
> referenced,
> > it will prompt that the variable is referenced and cannot be deleted.
> >
> > 3.References in Flink sql and program args
> > - In the application, the variables are uniformly referenced in the form
> of
> > placeholders ${xxx}, such as in Flink sql, program args
> > - For a better experience, it is necessary to provide the function of
> > following the search prompt when entering variable placeholders. For
> > example, when entering "${", the variable list is displayed, and when
> > "${kafka" is entered, the display contains variables for kafka strings,
> in
> > "variable code" or "description".
> > - When the focus is lost, it is judged whether there is a variable
> > placeholder, and if so, a verification button is displayed to prompt the
> > user to perform verification. When the user clicks the verification
> button,
> > the replaced content of the placeholder is displayed, and only the user
> > clicks the verification button to click the submit button
> > - If the user enters "okir23${j2Rts}pEt", this placeholder "${j2Rts}"
> will
> > not be replaced if "j2Rts" is not a variable we defined
> >
> > 4.Future plan
> > - Display the application or metadata list of a referenced variable in
> the
> > variable basic management module
> > - Improve user experience
> >
> > Best,
> > Chunjin Mu
> >
> > Chunjin Mu <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 22:28写道:
> >
> > > When we have dozens or dozens of variables, this phenomenon may be more
> > > prominent
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Chunjin Mu
> > >
> > > Chunjin Mu <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 22:26写道:
> > >
> > >> When a person asks which kafka should be used, I tell him in Chinese
> > that
> > >> he should use "采集整合的kafka", in fact the variable code is
> collect.kafka,
> > but
> > >> he is searching for gather keyword, it is difficult to just pass
> > >> collect.kafka The intuitive understanding is to "采集整合的kafka",  because
> > >> the information contained in the variable code is still not that much.
> > >>
> > >> Huajie Wang <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 22:17写道:
> > >>
> > >>> I just thought about it, there is really no need for this name.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Huajie Wang
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Rui Fan <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 21:54写道:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi guys,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I understand chunjin's solution is this:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > - variable code is placeholder
> > >>> > - variable name is an introduction
> > >>> > - Description is a detailed introduction
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I think introduction and detail are redundant.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > For example: there are two kafka clusters, the Beijing kafka
> > >>> > cluster and the Hangzhou kafka cluster.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If placeholder is `beijing_kafka`, `hangzhou_kafka`. Why
> > >>> > does the introduction still need `北京 kafka 集群` and
> > >>> > `杭州 kafka 集群`? placeholder is already clear.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If dev may forget the placeholder, then dev may also
> > >>> > forget the introduction.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Of course, if the placeholder is kafka1 kafka2, an
> > >>> > introduction is required. Why do we need an introduction
> > >>> > at this point, because the placeholder name is unreasonable.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Just like variable naming in Java code, there is no need to
> > >>> > introduce an introduction with a clear name. If the meaning of
> > >>> > the variable is complicated, we also need to write a detailed
> > >>> > description.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Finally, I want to say: less is more. If we want to make
> > >>> > something complicated, please give everyone a strong reason.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Best
> > >>> > fanrui
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:42 PM Huajie Wang <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Hi guys,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I agree with Chunjin, I think variable name is useful, Chunjin
> also
> > >>> > > explained the reason.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Best,
> > >>> > > Huajie Wang
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Chunjin Mu <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 20:22写道:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > Hi, Rui Fan
> > >>> > > >     I'll start a discussion later.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Best
> > >>> > > > Chunjin Mu
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Rui Fan <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 19:42写道:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > Hi guys,
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I agree with monster. And I suggest use variable name,
> variable
> > >>> value
> > >>> > > and
> > >>> > > > > description.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > By the way, there are some problems still need to confirm.
> > >>> What’s the
> > >>> > > > > placeholder? And how to use them when edit sql or datastream
> > job?
> > >>> > It’s
> > >>> > > > > better to discuss these asap.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Best
> > >>> > > > > fanrui
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 17:44 Chunjin Mu <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > hi, huajie, fan rui, monster
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Thank you for your suggestions.
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > Now please Huajie to confirm how to do it. If remove the
> > >>> variable
> > >>> > > > name, I
> > >>> > > > > > can also accept it here. I will do small secondary
> > development
> > >>> on
> > >>> > our
> > >>> > > > > > production system based on the community to meet internal
> > >>> needs.
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > 陈卓宇 <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五 15:58写道:
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > "外部采集整合kafka" is the Chinese description of variable, so
> it
> > >>> makes
> > >>> > > > sense
> > >>> > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > put it under `Description`.
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > Chunjin Mu <[email protected]> 于2022年10月14日周五
> 12:01写道:
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > The variable management module has three properties,
> > >>> including
> > >>> > > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > code, variable name, and description, For example, the
> > >>> variable
> > >>> > > > code
> > >>> > > > > is
> > >>> > > > > > > > "external.kafka.collect.brokers", and the variable name
> > is
> > >>> > > > > > "外部采集整合kafka".
> > >>> > > > > > > > When we created the application, I forgot what the
> > variable
> > >>> > code
> > >>> > > > was,
> > >>> > > > > > > but I
> > >>> > > > > > > > knew it was called "采集整合", so I can search Enter the
> > "采集整合"
> > >>> > > > keywords
> > >>> > > > > in
> > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > box, and of course you can also search for kafka
> > keywords.
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > At the same time, I want to know more detailed
> > information
> > >>> > about
> > >>> > > > this
> > >>> > > > > > > > kafka, such as who the operator is, what is the data
> > >>> retention
> > >>> > > > > period,
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > how big is the cluster size, but I can't use the
> > >>> description to
> > >>> > > > > search,
> > >>> > > > > > > so
> > >>> > > > > > > > I can only search or variable code or variable name,
> and
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > name
> > >>> > > > > > > > is also for a simple display.
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Although external.kafka.collect.brokers already
> contains
> > a
> > >>> lot
> > >>> > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > information, I think this is just a naming convention.
> > >>> When we
> > >>> > > > > discuss
> > >>> > > > > > > this
> > >>> > > > > > > > variable, we will discuss it by using the "采集整合 kafka"
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > We can discuss whether there is a problem with this
> > design,
> > >>> > what
> > >>> > > do
> > >>> > > > > you
> > >>> > > > > > > > think?
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > Rui Fan <[email protected]> 于2022年10月10日周一 11:45写道:
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Hi huajie:
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > If it is manually entered, it will always be
> treated
> > as
> > >>> > > > ordinary
> > >>> > > > > > > text.
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Users always copy some code from an old job to a new
> > job.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > I'm afraid it might not meet the user's expectations.
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > fanrui
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 3:12 PM Huajie Wang <
> > >>> > [email protected]>
> > >>> > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > hi 田向阳:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > The current discussion is about variable
> management,
> > >>> which
> > >>> > > is a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > relatively
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > independent function, No other modules involved,
> you
> > >>> can
> > >>> > > check
> > >>> > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > thread
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > [1] thread:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/s9sjpkjn6spvq07bk34cfd3vln7rjo0m
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Huajie Wang
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > 田向阳 <[email protected]> 于2022年10月8日周六 13:13写道:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is this module include a resource management
> cente
> > r
> > >>> > where
> > >>> > > > jars
> > >>> > > > > > can
> > >>> > > > > > > > be
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > chosen to provide to create a job
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ---- 回复的原邮件 ----
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > | 发件人 | Huajie Wang<[email protected]> |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > | 日期 | 2022年10月08日 12:07 |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > | 收件人 | [email protected]<
> > >>> > > [email protected]>
> > >>> > > > |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > | 抄送至 | |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > | 主题 | Re: [DISCUSS][issue-1477] Add variable
> > >>> management
> > >>> > > > > module |
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > hi 阿穆:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the clarification, My question is
> > >>> answered,
> > >>> > > but
> > >>> > > > > > now I
> > >>> > > > > > > > > have
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > one more concern,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently using {var} for variables, and I'm
> > >>> worried
> > >>> > > that
> > >>> > > > > one
> > >>> > > > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > user's parameters includes "{" and "}", e.g :
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > --password 'mypass{123}abc'
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > So how do we parse parse this?  How about ${var}
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Huajie Wang
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > 阿穆 <[email protected]> 于2022年10月8日周六
> > 11:36写道:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, monster, Huajie Wang, Rui Fan:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > I have integrated your replies. I really don't
> > pay
> > >>> much
> > >>> > > > > > attention
> > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > SQL,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > so I will do the following.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Each team has independent variables that do
> not
> > >>> > affect
> > >>> > > > each
> > >>> > > > > > > other
> > >>> > > > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > are isolated from each other, but the same
> > >>> variable is
> > >>> > > > unique
> > >>> > > > > > > under
> > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > same team, so you need to specify the team when
> > >>> > creating
> > >>> > > > > > > variables
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > (users
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > may belong to multiple teams, and the teams of
> > the
> > >>> > > current
> > >>> > > > > user
> > >>> > > > > > > > will
> > >>> > > > > > > > > be
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > displayed here for users to choose)
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.For Flink jar jobs, there are two ways to
> pass
> > >>> > > variables
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > - By using placeholders, such as adding --kafka
> > >>> > {mykafka}
> > >>> > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > args
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > the application, 'mykafka' is the variable code
> > of
> > >>> a
> > >>> > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > - Search by variable code or variable name.
> > After a
> > >>> > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > is
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > selected,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > the parameter transfer method is displayed
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.Flink sql will use variables as placeholders,
> > >>> E.g:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > CREATE TABLE KafkaTableA (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `type` STRING
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > ) WITH (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' = 'user_behaviorA',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.bootstrap.servers' =
> > >>> > > > > > > > > '{kafka_clusterA}',&nbsp;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 'kafka_ ClusterA' is the variable code
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' =
> > 'testGroupA',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' =
> > >>> 'earliest-offset',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp; &nbsp;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > CREATE TABLE KafkaTableB (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > ) WITH (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' = 'user_behaviorB',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.bootstrap.servers' =
> > >>> > > > > > > > > '{kafka_clusterB}',&nbsp;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 'kafka_ ClusterB' is the variable code
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' =
> > 'testGroupB',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' =
> > >>> 'earliest-offset',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > INSERT INTO KafkaTableA SELECT user_id,
> item_id,
> > >>> > '{type}'
> > >>> > > > > FROM
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > KafkaTableB&nbsp;&nbsp; -- 'type' is the
> variable
> > >>> code
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > 4.In the future, we can consider setting some
> > >>> system
> > >>> > > > built-in
> > >>> > > > > > > > > variables
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > ChunJin Mu
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 8:27 PM Rui Fan <
> > >>> > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Hi 阿穆:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; It's a great proposal.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; For usage scenarios, I strongly recommend
> > >>> support
> > >>> > > for
> > >>> > > > > > > > replacing
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > variables
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; in sql. E.g:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; CREATE TABLE KafkaTable (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; `user_id` BIGINT,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; `item_id` BIGINT
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; ) WITH (
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'connector' = 'kafka',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'topic' =
> 'user_behavior',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> > >>> 'properties.bootstrap.servers' =
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > '{kafka_clusterA}',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'properties.group.id' =
> > >>> > > > 'testGroup',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'scan.startup.mode' =
> > >>> > > > > 'earliest-offset',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'format' = 'csv'
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; )
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Note: 'properties.bootstrap.servers' =
> > >>> > > > > '{kafka_clusterA}',
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; For variable management, I have some
> > question:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 1. Is the parameter used within the team?
> If
> > >>> all
> > >>> > > teams
> > >>> > > > > > use a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > common
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; parameter, it
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; needs to be defined for each team, right?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 2. Which users can modify variables? Can
> all
> > >>> users
> > >>> > > > > modify
> > >>> > > > > > > all
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > variables of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; their team?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; After the variable is modified
> incorrectly,
> > >>> many
> > >>> > > jobs
> > >>> > > > > may
> > >>> > > > > > be
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > affected. So I
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; suggest that
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; only team admin or system admin have
> > >>> permission to
> > >>> > > > > modify,
> > >>> > > > > > > add
> > >>> > > > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > delete
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; variables.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Best
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; fanrui
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 7:01 PM Huajie Wang <
> > >>> > > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; hi 阿穆:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Thanks for starting a very useful
> > discussion,
> > >>> I
> > >>> > > have a
> > >>> > > > > > some
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > questions:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 1. The access boundary problem of variable
> > >>> > > management,
> > >>> > > > > is
> > >>> > > > > > > this
> > >>> > > > > > > > > all
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; people in the platform can access these
> > >>> variables(
> > >>> > > no
> > >>> > > > > > matter
> > >>> > > > > > > > who
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; defines) or that only team members can be
> > >>> access
> > >>> > > these
> > >>> > > > > > > > > variables.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 2. There are two usage scenarios for
> > variables
> > >>> > that
> > >>> > > I
> > >>> > > > > know
> > >>> > > > > > > of,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > one
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; in the entry parameter of main, and the
> > other
> > >>> is
> > >>> > in
> > >>> > > > > > > flinksql.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Are
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > both
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; supported, or only supported main entry ?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; about first question, my opinion:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 1. The variable management is associated
> > with
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > team.
> > >>> > > > > > > After
> > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > user
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; logs in to the system, he must select a
> team
> > >>> (a
> > >>> > user
> > >>> > > > can
> > >>> > > > > > > > belong
> > >>> > > > > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > one
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; or more teams), The variable belongs to a
> > team
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 2. All resources between teams are
> isolated,
> > >>> which
> > >>> > > > means
> > >>> > > > > > > that
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; variables are also isolated. In short,
> > >>> members of
> > >>> > a
> > >>> > > > team
> > >>> > > > > > can
> > >>> > > > > > > > use
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; define these variables, which are
> invisible
> > to
> > >>> > other
> > >>> > > > > > > members,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; other members cannot use these variables.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Welcome to your views
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Best,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; Huajie Wang
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; 陈卓宇 <[email protected]&gt;
> > >>> > 于2022年10月7日周五
> > >>> > > > > > > 14:18写道:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; Is it possible to do this variable
> > >>> support in
> > >>> > > sql
> > >>> > > > > as
> > >>> > > > > > > well
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; 阿穆 <[email protected]&gt;
> > >>> > 于2022年10月7日周五
> > >>> > > > > > > 13:54写道:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi guys,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; I want to start a discussion
> about
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > management
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > module. Please
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; see this issue issue-1477.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Background:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; In the actual production
> > >>> environment,
> > >>> > > Flink
> > >>> > > > > jobs
> > >>> > > > > > > are
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > generally complex,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; and usually require multiple
> > >>> external
> > >>> > > > > > components.
> > >>> > > > > > > > For
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > example, Flink jobs
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; consume data from Kafka, then
> > >>> connect
> > >>> > > > external
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > components
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > such as HBase
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; or
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Redis to obtain additional
> > business
> > >>> > > > > information,
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > then
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > write it to the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; downstream external components.
> > >>> There
> > >>> > are
> > >>> > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > following
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > problems:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. The connection information of
> > >>> > external
> > >>> > > > > > > > components,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > such
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > as IP, port
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; user password, needs to be
> > >>> configured in
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > application
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > args and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; transferred to the Flink job, so
> > >>> that
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > > > > > connection
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > information of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; external components is
> distributed
> > >>> in
> > >>> > > > multiple
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > applications. Once the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; connection information of
> external
> > >>> > > > components
> > >>> > > > > > > > changes,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > many
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > application
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; args parameters need to be
> > modified,
> > >>> > which
> > >>> > > > > will
> > >>> > > > > > > lead
> > >>> > > > > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > high operation
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; maintenance costs.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. There are many people in the
> > team
> > >>> > > > > developing
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > real-time
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > computing jobs.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; There is no uniform
> specification
> > >>> for
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > > > > > connection
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > information of the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; external components passed to
> the
> > >>> job,
> > >>> > > > > resulting
> > >>> > > > > > > in
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > different parameter
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; names of the same component.
> This
> > is
> > >>> > > > difficult
> > >>> > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > > > count
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > which external
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; components are dependent.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 3. In production practice, there
> > are
> > >>> > > usually
> > >>> > > > > > > > multiple
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > sets
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; environments, such as test
> > >>> environment
> > >>> > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > production
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > environment. It is
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; not intuitive to judge whether a
> > >>> > component
> > >>> > > > > > belongs
> > >>> > > > > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > > > > > a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > test environment
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; or
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; a production environment simply
> > >>> through
> > >>> > IP
> > >>> > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > ports.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Even
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > if it can be
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; judged, there are some
> omissions.
> > In
> > >>> > this
> > >>> > > > way,
> > >>> > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > connection information
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; online to the production
> > >>> environment may
> > >>> > > be
> > >>> > > > > > > external
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > components of the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; test
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; environment, or components of
> the
> > >>> > > production
> > >>> > > > > > > > > environment
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; inadvertently
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; configured during testing,
> leading
> > >>> to
> > >>> > > > > production
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > failures.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Proposal:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1. Create a unified module to
> > manage
> > >>> > > > > variables.
> > >>> > > > > > > > Users
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > can
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > define their
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; own
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; variables in this module.
> Variable
> > >>> > > > information
> > >>> > > > > > > > > includes
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > variable code
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; (passed to Flink program as
> > >>> parameter
> > >>> > > name),
> > >>> > > > > > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > value, variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; name,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; variable description, and which
> > >>> > > applications
> > >>> > > > > > > depend
> > >>> > > > > > > > on
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. In the same Team module, the
> > >>> variable
> > >>> > > > code
> > >>> > > > > or
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > name is unique
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; - By using placeholders, such as
> > >>> adding
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > > > > kafka
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > {mykafka}
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > to the args of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the application, mykafka is the
> > >>> variable
> > >>> > > > code
> > >>> > > > > > of a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > variable
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; - Search by variable code or
> > >>> variable
> > >>> > > name.
> > >>> > > > > > After
> > >>> > > > > > > a
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > variable is selected,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the parameter transfer method is
> > >>> > displayed
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; If you have any suggestions,
> > >>> welcome to
> > >>> > > > > > > participate
> > >>> > > > > > > > in
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; the mail list or issue, I look
> > >>> forward
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > > > your
> > >>> > > > > > > > > feedback.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt; &gt; Best wishes
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > &gt; &gt;
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > > >
> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
>

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