--- Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know I will get ignored or flamed on this, but here I go. My > apologies in > advance if I offend anyone. > > Before I start, I have made more than a couple of attempts at > contributing > code, all of which have been ignored or pushed off to irrelevant > projects. > > I do wish this philosophy would get rethought. I do agree we don't need > more code than necessary, however. > > 1) Tag libs are equal in importance to the controller. Clean tag libs > give > clean an maintainable view code and limit view re-factoring. > 2) JSTL is a waste of time. The reason I say this, not counting the > non-java people, is if you can write x number of lines of useful code > per > hour, with jstl that is reduced by a factor greater than 1 due to type > checking, refactoring support, testing difficulties, etc.
This contradicts point 1. If using JSTL tags is a waste of time, so is using Struts tags. > 3) While javascript may be inconsistent between browsers, it is > certainly > possible to write cross browser javascript w/o a huge amount of effort. > I > understand that in the original ideas of struts, javascript was > 'optional', > in real web sites that is just not the case. Try turning off javascript > and > ordering on-line, it will be the rare site which functions cleanly with > many > MAJOR sites becoming non-functional. > 4) I am still wondering why struts became the standardized html nazis. > This > makes absolutely NO sense. If you want your site to only work in IE, that's fine with me. Expecting a widely used library like Struts to support that behavior is rediculous. I have absolutely no interest in writing/maintaining code that only supports one OS and browser. David > > A replacement philosophy for the tags might be: > > Any tag that has a clean interaction with a struts object or bean should > be > considered for tag libs assuming either very general usage or real > benefit > in specialized situations. > > Edgar > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marcus Breese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:24 AM > > To: Struts Developers List > > Subject: Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for > > submitting > > > > > > I actually agree with everything that you've said. I just have one > > issue. The struts tag libs are still heavily used, and haven't been > > deprecated. If they aren't part of the core struts package, then they > > should be deprecated and moved to a different project. > > > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT), David Graham > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Well said Niall. IMO, tags with any of the following > > properties don't > > > belong in Struts: > > > 1. They don't interact with core Struts resources/framework. > > > 2. They use javascript that may not work in all browsers. > > > 3. They generate non-standard HTML. > > > 4. They duplicate functionality already available in the JSTL. > > > > > > Many times Jakarta Taglibs is a more suitable home for these tags. > > > > > > David > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 6/15/2004 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
