Re: [VOTE] Adopt HTTP Release Guidelines (was Re: [Announce] Release of Struts 1.2.5 (beta))

[Eddie Bush]

Actually, I think what everyone's getting at is that you should "evaluate" 
and then "label".  Labeling right off the bat makes it look like the system 
is arbitrary - even if it is well defined that we start at alpha then move 
up.  It would certainly look worse to downgrade than upgrade our rating, but 
I do see Martin's point.

OpenSource is really growing tons.  People are still scared of it though. 
You can try and explain that commercial packages routinely distribute 
packages for GA that would never make beta in the OpenSource community --  
simply to gain some return from their product -- but ti really doesn't help 
:-|  By making the system seem less arbitrary, we raise our level of 
credibility.

That seems like a worthy method to me :-)
Measure twice; cut once.
Eddie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Germuska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Adopt HTTP Release Guidelines (was Re: [Announce] 
Release of Struts 1.2.5 (beta))


>Also, referring to a test build as alpha is prejudging the quality of the 
>build; it
could be better than that, or it could be worse, and IMNSHO it
reflects badly on us if we first claim it's alpha and later are seen
to change our minds about that, whichever way the change goes.

This is something which seems entirely contrary to the spirit of these 
frequent, incremental builds -- I have assumed all along that the point 
was that when a build was first made, it would be, no matter what 
considered of alpha quality, and that after the build was in the wild for 
a while and real feedback came in, we would use that feedback to upgrade 
the status of the build when appropriate.

I strongly disagree with the idea that we "look bad" when we upgrade a 
release.  I do think we look bad if we downgrade.

Joe
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