Struts (the controller) is pretty view agnostic as it sits now (unless there's been some change of which I am unaware). There are even non-http methods so that it can be used outside of a web application. I believe some folks have actually even done this.

Struts does provide a lot to facilitate rendering a JSP view, but that's just because that's what's main-stream. There are "kits" to have Struts render to other views.

I am a little nervous about using a JDK 1.5 base. I'd like to use this once there's a GA release, and I - being realistic and pragmatic - am not certain the company I work for will be running things on such a platform.

I'm 250% for JDK 1.4 and Servlet spec 2.4 / JSP 2.0. That gives us a myriad of tools to use we haven't had at our disposal before now and also sets what I believe is realistically a possible common platform that folks will have available to use this when we do hit GA.

If someone can convince me otherwise, I'd be happy to get behind the 1.5/5.0/?.?? band-wagon and hop on. Maybe I'll hit-up our farm-management guys and see what their expectations are for the next year.

2 cents, 4 cents, 6 cents ... a dollar!  er ... maybe not :-)

Eddie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Struts Shale



Some people already moan that struts is too jsp orientated with
the tags that are included

I'm not trying to tip the discussion in any direction here, but I thought I would point out that JSF is "supposed" to be view agnostic. Render kits are being built for WML, Swing, etc. I think that it is safe to assume that JSF would move Struts AWAY from its jsp orientation.

and I'm wondering what proportion of the
exisiting Struts user base were going to loose/screw going that route?

I guess in order to agree/disagree with this stratgey I need to go and
actullay try JSF out.

Niall



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