OK, I am clearly not understanding what you are suggesting. ;-(

You asked if it would "make sense for Struts to have a repository for
such things, even if they are not in the distribution". I interpreted
that to mean that you are suggesting that they go into the Struts SVN
repository, but not into the builds - like the code that lives in
'contrib' today.

Apparently, that's not what you're suggesting. So perhaps you could
clarify what it is that you _are_ suggesting? ;-) If it's not in
Struts SVN, and it's not in Struts Applications at SourceForge, what -
and where - is it?

--
Martin Cooper


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:53:22 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:24:41 -0800, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:39:51 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Whatever the fate and whatever the nature of this submission, having
> > > this sort of development available to users and  to developers is, I
> > > think, a definite plus.  Does it make sense for Struts to have a
> > > repository for such things, even if they are not in the distribution
> > > to others?  It does to me.  That would go a long way towards easing
> > > the load on the user list.
> >
> > That is (part of) what the Struts Applications project on SourceForge
> > is for.
> 
> I think that the Struts Appications project on SourceForge is
> definitely different than what I was talking about.  Whatever one
> thinks of making coding options available and how to do it, what I was
> talking about is significantly different than SourceForge although
> obviously not totally unrelated with anything to do with Struts,
> including SourceForge.
> 
> >We (or at least I ;) don't want to accumulate a bunch of
> > different sample apps within the Struts project itself,
> 
> Definitely not.  I thought I was clear that would be a bad idea.  I am
> not sure why you made this the focus, Martin.  The focus was totally
> different.  There surely are hundreds of options besides the Struts
> distribution and SourceForge, and some of those options with Struts.
> 
> >because (a)
> > the code in the apps would quickly overwhelm that in Struts itself;
> 
> Again, I specifically said this was a bad idea.
> 
> > (b) we would effectively be signing up to maintain them all, which I'm
> > personally not up for;
> 
> Again, this would not be the issue.  I am not sure why you got to here.
> 
> > and (c) it would be difficult to come up with a
> > definitive set of criteria for what is, and is not, accepted,
> 
> I hate to keep saying this, but I do think what I was talking about
> was interesting and it has nothing to do with any of this.  This is
> what I said I was not talking about.  Just seeking clarity here.  I
> think you must have read my note too quickly.
> 
> > making
> > it difficult to close the door to any random Struts app once the door
> > is open.
> 
> What I was suggesting needs no maintainance, is open to anything
> halfway reasonable, etc.
> 
> >
> > Of course, this is just me; other Struts committers may have different 
> > opinions.
> 
> I just want to make sure that their opinions are on the topic as
> raised and not on the topic as you have addressed it.  As I said, I
> too am against what you say you are against.  I think anyone capable
> of a modicum of lucid thinking would be.  However, this still leaves
> the issue about what I was talking about unaddressed.  There should be
> a way to accommodate sharing good ideas without putting them into the
> mainstream of a Struts distribution.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:18:23 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti
> > >
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I don't want it to be sitting on my server forever, no.  I'll leave it
> > > > up for a while, maybe a few more weeks.
> > > >
> > > > It's of course not my decision to include the sample or not.  I put it
> > > > together, but I'm not going to go nuts trying to promote or support it
> > > > because ultimately it's not exactly a big accomplishment or anything.
> > > > It serves it's purpose in demonstrating the use of DownloadAction, but
> > > > it's not rocket science or anything.
> > > >
> > > > It's probably fine as-is, and I don't plan on putting any effort into it
> > > > unless specifically asked, and that includes getting it up on the Struts
> > > > Applications project.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Frank W. Zammetti
> > > > Founder and Chief Software Architect
> > > > Omnytex Technologies
> > > > http://www.omnytex.com
> > > >
> > > > Martin Cooper wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:57:54 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Note that download location is NOT permanent.  It is just there until
> > > > >>(if) the sample app is included with Struts.  I'll leave it up until
> > > > >>then.  I do not know what the current status of inclusion is however.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My preference is to not add the app itself to Struts. f you don't want
> > > > > to host it yourself, and believe it needs ongoing development, you
> > > > > might want to talk to the folks at the Struts Applications project on
> > > > > SourceForge.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Martin Cooper
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>Frank W. Zammetti
> > > > >>Founder and Chief Software Architect
> > > > >>Omnytex Technologies
> > > > >>http://www.omnytex.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>   Date: 2004-11-26T01:12:26
> > > > >>>   Editor: NiallPemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>>   Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki
> > > > >>>   Page: StrutsFileDownload
> > > > >>>   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsFileDownload
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>   no comment
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Change Log:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
> > > > >>>+= Sample Webapp =
> > > > >>>+
> > > > >>>+After putting up this page, someone pointed out there is already a 
> > > > >>>sample webapp (should pay more attention to the lists :-(). 
> > > > >>>Apparently its available for download here: 
> > > > >>>[http://www.omnytex.com/downloadapp.zip Sample Download Webapp]
> > > > >>>+
> > > > >>>+Details from this thread: 
> > > > >>>[http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg04600.html 
> > > > >>>Mail Archive]
> > > > >>>+
> > > > >>> = File Download =
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> A new DownloadAction was added in Struts 1.2.6 (see 
> > > > >>> the[http://struts.apache.org/api/org/apache/struts/actions/DownloadAction.html
> > > > >>>  JavaDoc]). This page is to show how to use it and has the 
> > > > >>> following structure:
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