On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:48:52 -0800, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Martin,
> 
> I don't think I said a thing about struts-chain.  Why would you think
> I thought something I never mentioned and ignore what I did say?

You replied to a message that asked a question about struts-chain. If
you want to gripe about on- or off-topic, I highly recomment replying
to the message that you have a problem with, and not one that asks a
valid on-topic question.

--
Martin Cooper


> What you suggest I said is patently stupid.  So, I have to admit I
> don't think that.  No one would think that.  That would be perfect
> straw man, if that is what one wants.
> 
> I just asked why JSF (not STRUTS-chain) is not OT.  Why isn't it?  If
> there is an obvious reason, we could state focused on what was said
> instead of something patently absurd.
> 
> Struts-Faces is a sort of switch and a sort of oxymoron beyond that: a
> way to transition slowly away from Struts.  That is okay, if Struts
> wants to officiate at its own funeral.  But straight up JSF talk is
> clearly OT in my mind.  I was, however, asking others what they think
> on THAT topic, not on struts-chain.
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:50:38 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Dakota Jack wrote:
> >
> > > How is JSF not OT with struts-dev or struts-user?  Struts is not dead
> > > yet, is it?  And, if not, why is struts airtime free to JSF?
> >
> > You don't consider a question about STRUTS-chain - a component in the
> > Struts sandbox - to be relevant to Struts?
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:24:25 -0500, Deadman, Hal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > >>> By the way, for the benefit of our developer community, i just read an
> > >>> article " Creating a Pet Store Application with JavaServer Faces,
> > >>> Spring, and Hibernate"
> > >>> http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=46977&DE=1 that demonstrates the
> > >>> readiness of involved technologies. I like to add 2 things to what the
> > >>> article has revealed:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1) Jsf and tiles are fuly integrated under myfaces. You do not need 2
> > >>> jsp pages for every view (a wrapper page and a real fragment). Just 1
> > >>> fragment jsp that makes a new page and 1 tiles definition. For those
> > >> who
> > >>> used Struts-1.x + Tiles to create a portal page (e.g. our current
> > >> portal
> > >>> and LifeRay), you may choose to forget about the portlet layout to
> > >> gain
> > >>> maximum flexibility for the portlet view i.e. perfectly fit for a
> > >>> complete jsf dynamic fragment + total flexibility to scrap an html
> > >>> fragment over the Internet + mixing of [Jsf + Jsp + Jstl] in the
> > >> portlet
> > >>> fragment. (I had this issue and asked the Jsf forum. I took me 4 days
> > >> to
> > >>> have it worked out and answered myself for the question)
> > >>
> > >> Does struts-faces provide a way for the JSF reference implementation to
> > >> work with tiles and not require two jsps per view?
> > >>
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> > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
> > >
> > > ~Dakota Jack~
> > >
> > > "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."
> > >
> > > ~Native Proverb~
> > >
> > > "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be 
> > > crows."
> > >
> > > ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~
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> --
> "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
> 
> ~Dakota Jack~
> 
> "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."
> 
> ~Native Proverb~
> 
> "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows."
> 
> ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~
> 
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