> already shown, for example, that you can use Tiles and 
> Commons Validator directly with JSF (without using the Struts 
> controller architecture) -- and these are capabilities I 
> already know how to integrate into Shale.  Servlet Filters 

Nice to hear! Is a thing, that will be *public* next week?
Then I will play a bit with Shale.

> It's also quite pleasant to be done with form beans (JSF 
> components already do the stuff we used to need them for); to 
> have the logic to set up a page and process it's input next 
> to each other instead of in two actions that have to be 
> chained; to not need "configuration beans" at all; to be able 
> to manage multi-request dialogs more gracefully (stay tuned 
> for a Shale example next week); and to be able to use JSF 

yes, we are ;-) sounds nice!

> components from multiple libraries; but I digress ...

no, you don't ... it is still interessting
but perhaps a bit OT ... ;-)

> Craig

Matthias

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