On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:46:17 -0700, David Geary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le Dec 29, 2004, à 5:29 AM, Ted Husted a écrit :
> 
> > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:40:44 -0700, David Geary wrote:
> >>  I'd like to see an open-source standalone version of Tiles. A
> >>  toplevel Apache project is one way to do that.
> >
> > I'd support whatever you wanted to do, David.
> >
> > If you, or anyone else, wanted to apply for incubation, I'd help in
> > anyway I can.
> 
> Thanks for the offer, Ted. If Tiles stays with Apache do we have to go
> through incubation? It'd be nice if we could skip incubation,
> considering that Tiles has been incubating in Struts for years. 8-)

I think that we should be able to avoid incubation. We simply need to
show that a community exists around Tiles itself. Once there is
activity on the code base, and active discussion of its future on the
lists, we should start to invite participants from places outside of
Struts, and then at some point create separate mailing lists to
support an independent community. (The model I'm thinking of here is
Commons HttpClient.) We can also devote a "sub-site" of the main
Struts site to Tiles to demonstrate our intent to grow Tiles as an
independent entity. Then, when the community thinks it's ready, Tiles
could be proposed as an Apache TLP.

Much of this is similar to going through incubation, except that I
think it will go faster by starting within Struts, because of the
large Struts community, and large number of folks within that
community that already use Tiles. There are already members of our
community here who use Tiles with technologies other than Struts (e.g.
Velocity and JSF / MyFaces), so I don't think that will be a stumbling
block.

--
Martin Cooper


> > Or, if someone made a home for Tiles at SourceForge or Tigris or
> > Codehaus, that would be great too.
> 
> java.net is also an option.
> 
> > That a community and its codebase lives is more important than where
> > it lives.
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> 
> david
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> >
> >
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