I haven't tried Maven 2 either.  Shale would be a good kick in the butt to 
learn though!

According to their website, it looks like they're almost ready for a beta 
release.  The current release is Alpha 3.  

I was at the BoF session at JavaOne on Maven this year.  They were confident 
about porting the rest of the plugins that had not already been ported.  It 
appears that they've almost completed that.

I don't think that the Maven 2 specific differences from Maven 1.x will make 
the transition that difficult.  The only issues would be getting POMs for its 
dependencies and writing the maven.xml stuff into a Maven 2 plugin.

Thanks,
Jeremy J. Barth
Cargill Food IT - BAT

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Have you tried Maven 2?

Being a Maven evangelist myself, I have followed along with the  
announcements and I even have the latest beta installed on my box,  
but I haven't had much of a chance to play with it.

I just wonder how complete the plugins are for it.  Maven 1.x has had  
a long time to accumulate and perfect many more plugins than I could  
ever use in this lifetime.

If the basic set of plugins (and their dependencies) are good to go,  
then I might make an effort to ramp up on M2.

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On Aug 31, 2005, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I see that Wendy is using Maven 1.x.  Are there any plans to move  
> it to Maven 2?
>
> Jeremy J. Barth
>
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> Sent:    Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:20 AM
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> Subject:    Re: [shale] status
>
> Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the pointer ... I wasn't aware of that. That being  
>> said, it's not
>> clear that a lot of effort should be devoted to the Shale Ant  
>> scripts, since
>> Wendy has volunteered to Mavenize them (as long as she can deal  
>> with the
>> either-JSF-RI-or-MyFaces requirements -- boy can she be a glutton for
>> punishment sometimes :-).
>>
>
> Yep, I knew that, both that she was Mavenizing it *and* that she  
> can be
> a glutton for punishment :)
>
> I was hoping you'd continue the Ant scripts... as I said to Wendy a  
> few
> days ago, it seems like many people are switching to Maven, and I  
> liked
> being able to point to you and say "hey, Craig isn't using it, I can't
> be completely wrong in sticking with Ant!" :)
>
> At the end of the day though, it's just like Struts... Whatever my
> feelings about Maven, if the build works and I don't have to maintain
> the script, not really a big deal either way.
>
>
>> Even if that weren't the case, though, I'm not positive that, in  
>> an Ant-only
>> world, defining external dependencies separately (rather than  
>> explicitly in
>> <get> targets as Shale does now) is necessarily a better thing --  
>> but that
>> might also be my long time antipathy to Maven showing through :-).
>>
>
> I know the feeling, I haven't been overly excited about Maven
> personally.  This particular feature though is one that I didn't  
> have an
> immediate aversion to, and I was happy to find this analogy for Ant...
> especially for JWP as an example, it cut out over 1MB of download size
> from the source distro; I definitely appreciate that.
>
>
>> Craig
>>
>
> Frank
>
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