Craig McClanahan wrote:
On 11/18/05, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Laurie Harper wrote:
I couldn't sleep, so I've been spending the night looking at a few
things, amoung them Shale. I was wondering what a good starting
place would be to get up to speed quickly, since I haven't really
looked at JSF or Shale before now.
I personally found it overwhelming to figure out Shale with no
understanding of JSF. So I started with vanilla JSF using MyFaces
and using the JSF Tutorial at coreservlets.com <http://coreservlets.com>(http://
www.coreservlets.com/JSF-Tutorial/)<http://www.coreservlets.com/JSF-Tutorial/)>.
After spending a very limited
amount of time with plain ol' JSF I'm starting to see benefit in
Shale, but I haven't really gotten back around to fooling with it more.
That approach (start with pure JSF, then come back) is probably the wisest.
Shale's assumption that JSF exists is so fundamental that it dispenses not
only duplicating functionality, but duplicating documentation :-) That's
something that will likely need to be improved in the long run.
Yeah, after trying to pull Shale into an existing Struts app, then
trying to get it going from scratch, then trying to get Creator going I
came to the same conclusion and downloaded MyFaces. 20 minutes later and
I had a working application :-)
And, as to dialogs, yes ... in the current implementation, back buttons are
death (as well as multiple simultaneous dialogs). That's very high on my
priority list for *after* the whole darn thing is stable enough for a
1.0.0alpha-quality milestone.
Ugh, yeah, that'd be a total show stopper for me as far as adopting
Shale right now... Not for giving it a good poke and finding out what
it's all about though.
L.
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