Do you ever discuss the issues Mitchell?  Struts is in large part a quagmire
due to an attempt to give the branding to JSF for Craig via Shale.  No one
not in the long term know or even in the long term know can now see what the
future is.  No code

On 4/25/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yep, I agree.  You wouldn't believe the commission percentage that
> Craig gets whenever he sells a free copy of Java Studio Creator.  I'm
> impressed that you noticed that too....wow.
>
> --
> James Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Dakota Jack wrote:
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> > There is a big difference between having an open source project
> > that is used
> > for business and using your position on the list to promote your
> > business
> > ideas on the list.  How about we begin selling our sites on this
> > list?  If
> > you cannot see the difference in this, then you just are not being
> > honest or
> > you are not to bright.  I think Ted sees exactly the point.
> > Reducing this
> > to the TV idiocy is just as bad as the usual claim that Struts is just
> > another Apache list, which it is not.
> >
> > On 4/25/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 4/25/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Ok, let's review shall we.
> >>>
> >>>>> ... for our committers to use on open source projects...
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> What part of that says anything about personal gain?
> >>
> >> I seem to remember the term "personal gain" from the TV series
> >> "Charmed', but I for one am not a witch :)
> >>
> >> The Apache License is designed to be business friendly. We expect and
> >> encourage commercial uses of our products. As a result, it's not
> >> uncommon for vendors of retail products to want to give back to open
> >> source projects.
> >>
> >> Another good example is JetBrains, which provides complementantry
> >> IDEA
> >> licenses to many open source projects, including the ASF.
> >>
> >> Of course, these licenses usually come with the stipulation that the
> >> license is only to be used when working on open source projects. The
> >> licenses are not for our personal use, but to help us with the
> >> volunteer work we do for the foundation.
> >>
> >> -Ted.
> >>
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