I certainly won't quibble over the name... I can't believe I'm saying it
now, but I'd prefer Struts Classic :)  Not a big deal though, I can
certainly live with Action1, your justifications do make sense.

So, I guess the question is, does anyone else think this is a good idea? 
Can we get enough buy-in from people to make it happen?  I'm not really
sure what I could do to help make it happen, but since I brought it up,
I'll do whatever I can.

Frank

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On Wed, April 26, 2006 11:44 am, Don Brown said:
> A few weeks ago, my reaction would have definitely been no, Struts
> Action is the project and there are two versions.  However, as Action 2
> has moved along, and we've migrated resources like the wiki, jira, and
> Action 1 to Maven 2, I'm starting if you might not be on to something.
> Just from an SVN and JIRA perspective, it is much more natural to treat
> them as two different projects, and I'd argue from a user and website
> perspective as well.
>
> I think the project names should remain the same, but from a project
> management perspective, I'm starting to agree with you they should be
> clearly separate.  Keeping Action 1 and Action 2 as the names is
> important as it conveys progress, migration, and similar goals, however,
> I think we would be better off to treat them as to separate projects.
>
> Don
>
> Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
>> On Wed, April 26, 2006 11:20 am, Don Brown said:
>>
>>> So again, there is much to do and please do join the efforts.  If there
>>> is something we can do to help make the project direction clearer, or
>>> highlight areas that need work, please let us know.  These are the
>>> types
>>> of non-code discussions I feel are appropriate for this list as their
>>> end result is more commits and technical involvement.
>>>
>>
>> Don, can I make one suggestion here, or actually, ask a question first?
>> And if by chance it is already the case, I'd like to see it communicated
>> much clearer.
>>
>> What is the status of Action1?  What I mean is, what is its standing
>> with
>> relation to SAF2 and Shale?  At this point in time, under the Struts
>> umbrella, do we have three projects (Action1, SAF2 and Shale) or two
>> (Action and Shale)?
>>
>> Looking at the web site, the later appears to be the case.  If that is
>> NOT
>> currently the case, I believe it should be communicated much clearer,
>> beginning with how it is shown on the Struts site.
>>
>> If that IS the case, I'd like to suggest that there be three separate
>> projects under Struts.  If Action1 were allowed to be a separate project
>> under Struts, and maybe we call it Struts Classic (I was against this
>> name
>> some time ago, but I think it makes sense now), I think there would be a
>> lot less anxiety out there about its fate.  It could continue to evolve
>> on
>> its own, and people could target their contributions to one or the
>> other.
>>
>> Frank
>>
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