On 5/13/06, Paul Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know it is against our best practices, but can you just fix
1.3.4 with the correct DTD and then retag it?


No. If we did that, (a) anyone who had run a Maven build against the
1.3.4that's up there now would still be using the "old"
1.3.4, because Maven would not pick up the "new" 1.3.4 since there is
already a 1.3.4 in their local repo, and (b) when someone has problems, we'd
end up having to ask "are you using the original 1.3.4 or the hacked one?",
and if the user was building with Maven, they wouldn't necessarily know, or
have an easy way of finding out.

Do we need a new
version (1.3.5) just for this?


Unfortunately, yes. It's the only reliable way.

--
Martin Cooper


I am okay either which way. -- Paul

--- Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/10/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Once you have had a chance to review this test build, please respond
> > with a vote on its quality:
> >
> > [ ] Alpha
> > [X] Beta
> > [ ] General Availability (GA)
> >
> >
> Sorry for the late response - I've been at The Ajax Experience
conference
> for the last couple of days.
>
> I'm afraid that the Tiles DTD issue is enough for me to vote (strongly,
in
> fact) against GA. If this release went GA, it would be our first 1.3 GA
> release, and thus has the potential for being downloaded and used by
> thousands of Struts developers. To have all of those developers'
> applications hitting ASF infrastructure every time they start their apps
is
> not tenable.
>
> The infrastructure people are already very irritated indeed by all the
hits
> coming from Java applications looking for DTDs, and some have suggested
> removing the use of DTDs completely if the applications cannot be
prevented
> from hitting ASF infrastructure to verify them. IIRC, 6% of all minotaur
> traffic is for DTDs, and Struts is already the worst offender, by a
> significant margin. For us to consciously vote to release 1.3.4 as GA,
and
> thus significantly exacerbate this problem - well, let's just say that
if I
> could veto a 1.3.4 GA release, I would.
>
> I understand that there is a great desire to get a GA release out so
that it
> can be announced at JavaOne. I too think this would be great - we really
do
> need to see a 1.3 GA release out the door. But it needs to be GA
quality,
> not just labelled GA in the interest of the timing of the announcement.
>
> Unfortunately, while I was out at TAE, my illustrious team managed to
break
> the build of our primary 1.3-based app, so I haven't been able to
evaluate
> 1.3.4 functionally at this point. I'll try to provide further feedback
if I
> can get that resolved first.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>


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