That all makes sense, and thanks to you, Bob and Ted for your openness
in discussing these issues with a non-commiter. In looking through the
snapshot, I'm really excited to see where things are going, this
framework is going to be a joy to work with.

dave

On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 10:36 -0700, Don Brown wrote:
> _If_ you use a wildcard for an action, and _if_ you have that matched value 
> as 
> your method name, then yes, you are intentionally allowing anyone to access 
> any 
> method on that action class.  This isn't a concern, IMO, because it was 
> explicitly allowed by the developer, where the old capability was enabled by 
> default, where the developer may not have been aware of it.
> 
> In the future, I could see an interceptor that checks the method specified 
> for a 
> method-level annotation, and only if it is present, allow the request to 
> continue.
> 
> Don
> 
> David Evans wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 21:27 -0400, Ted Husted wrote:
> >> On 7/24/06, David Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I understand the security concerns, but the flexibility is far more
> >>> important to me. If a user wants to protect themselves, they can make
> >>> methods they don't want run by xwork private. Or maybe have an explicit
> >>> list of <param name="excludeMethods">this,that,theOther</param>.
> >> The framework is as flexible as ever. Action alaises are still
> >> supported. The only difference is that you can only declare the alias
> >> in an action mapping, or use wildcards.
> > 
> > I think the action:name!method idiom is perfectly flexible. I was
> > referring specifically to Bob's comments about securing the method names
> > available for calling, by using struts tags which will assign a digest
> > key to a map of method names. Bob said "I was hoping we'd store which
> > methods are OK to invoke in the session or sign them or something".
> > 
> > The question is, once the wildcard is set up in the struts.xml file, to
> > allow the above idiom, how do you prevent the calling of a method on
> > your action? because anyone can then type:
> > http://www.domain.com/someaction?action:someaction!somemethod to try to
> > run random methods. I am hoping that if any steps are taken to prevent
> > that security hole, it will still allow the flexible wildcard usage.
> > 
> >> Instead of
> >>
> >> MyDispatchAction!delete
> >>
> >> We define an action mapping
> >>
> >> <action name="delete" class="example.CrudAction" method="delete">
> >>
> >> and call the delete acton directly, or simulate the same with wildcards.
> >>
> >> The URL aliases weren't more "flexible". Just lazy and unsecure.
> >>
> >> For the configuration-free crowd, I expect alias annotations are (or
> >> will be) supported too.
> > 
> > What would that look like? I don't know what is meant by alias
> > annotations.
> > 
> > dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> -Ted.
> >>
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