I agree to a degree, however, it is inevitable that a lot of resources
that would be used in moving the code forward are absorbed by these
"discussions", and generally, the folks with the energy and vision to
move forward don't have the patience for drawn out detail discussions.
While ideally, there is a healthy balance between diversity and unity of
vision, I feel the Struts community is leaning too much towards
diversity lately with little unity of vision. The problem is we don't
seem to have a shared vision of what Struts 2 is and should be, and we
need that shared vision to guide our discussions and propel innovation.
When we started the Struts Ti proposal, we did so with the vision of a
framework that makes development easier, requires no configuration, and
had support for advanced flow management features. If that is still the
desired goal, then I think Patrick's Able extensions is our best bet to
realizing it. In fact, it was from working closely with Patrick in
implementing the first versions of Ti that prompted the closer
collaboration movements, culminating in Ted's proposal to combine
efforts completely.
Should Able go into the code base now? No, I think we should take what
we have, get it stable, and get it out there to our users. However, we
shouldn't wait to start realizing the Ti vision, so I propose we start
the Struts 2.1 branch in Subversion, and seed it with Able. Let 2.1 be
a breeding ground for innovative, convention-based code. We need to
foster continued, forward-looking development, while stabilizing what we
have today.
Don
Ted Husted wrote:
But, we are the user base too. In practice, a PMC is a working focus
group. Hopefully, we will attract developers from a wide variety of
projects, so that the framework we build will be robust enough to fill
all our varied needs.
Personally, I think it's a good thing that Patrick writes applications
one way and that Jason writes them a different way. The differences
are our strength. The differences are what make the framework worth
the time and effort it takes to build it.
-Ted.
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