Don
Ted Husted wrote:
> On 8/30/06, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As I've said previously, I disagree. I think we should aim to
work 100%
>> out of the box.
>
> But, in the case of JSF and JasperReports, that's not an achievable
goal.
>
> We can't distribute JasperReports, and I don't think we want to start
> picking a JSF implementation for people. If they have to go to trouble
> of obtaining the JARs, they can add a results element to the package
> that uses the JAR.
>
> If we have to display a logging message as to why the result isn't
> working, it's better to leave out the result, and let the developer do
> his or her job.
>
> Again, we're talking about use case where it does not, and cannot,
> work 100% of the box.
>
>
>> By minimizing the amount of framework learning
>> developers have to go through to use Struts, we enable them to get
>> started quicker and spent more time figuring out how to solve more
>> important, business problems. Let's be honest - Struts is just
one more
>> library in probably 40 or 50 that they are using, we shouldn't assume
>> they have the time or interest to learn all about how it works.
>> Providing a library that "just works" shows we respect the
developer's
>> time. Personally, I hate open source libraries that assume I have
>> nothing better to do than learn their inner workings to make it do
the
>> most simple things.
>
> But, we are not talking about core functionality. We are talking about
> support for third-party libraries, outside of our normal purview.
>
>
>> > We can't distribute the JasperReports JAR, but in the case of JSF,
>> > this is an ideal opportunity to demonstrate plugging in a new
result
>> > via the showcase application.
>> The JSF support already has a section in the showcase application.
>
> Yes, and I added the JSF result to that package,.
>
> -Ted.
>
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