On 12/1/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
excellent! so long as we do not plan to ban any and all subprojects from this Tiles TLP we're trying to create, i will be happy. but, if you'd like, feel free to join me in my quest and differentiate between "conceptual bucket TLPs" and "code-connected umbrella TLPs". :) since we began the effort to extricate the Velocity umbrella from the Jakarta bucket, i've been making a concerted effort to refine the language here in hopes of changing how the ASF thinks about these issues.
Even HTTPD has "subprojects" * http://httpd.apache.org/ Part of the problem is that the ASF is itself "conceptual bucket umbrella", and when projects create their own umbrellas, we have umbrellas within umbrellas. The board and membership have never said that a project needs to be a certain size -- beyond a qurom of positive three to authorize a release. If there's community enough to release, there's community enough for a PMC. A tipping point is when the subproject becomes useful outside the scope of the core project. Since "we eat our own dogfood," the set of PMC members should be a subset of the project users. Likewise, the set of subproject contributors should also be a subset of the set of core project users. In the case of Tiles, we have reached the point where the set of Tiles contributors may not be a subset of Struts users. Therefore, it's time for TIles to have its own PMC, that represents a subset of all the TIles users, whether they are Struts users or not. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]