I felt bad about the jsp f-job that your tags went through and have some dim
hope that maybe Howard will use it in T5 since he seems to be leaning more
towards jsf friendly spec -like things.   Haven't posted anything about this
anywhere else except in a private email to Drew/Patrick though.  

Anyone is more than welcome to help contribute towards whatever effort is
involved.   The actual el -compatible language part should be easy as it'll
just require copying / editing a new grammar file for javacc (ognl already
supports all the language features and then some of course..),  but I expect
all the API refactoring / whatever hell the u-el API has in store to not be
as easy.  (it's better to be pessimistic) 


Tom Schneider wrote:
> 
> Well, I am definitely interested in this.  I had no idea this was being 
> planned.  (I'll have to pop over to the OGNL site more often now)  It 
> definitely would be good for us to keep in sync since we may be 
> duplicating efforts.  My work thus far has been mostly a Proof of 
> Concept, so I haven't invested too much time at this point.  It would 
> also probably be easier from a migration standpoint if we could get 
> something like this going.
> Tom
> 
> Jessek wrote:
>> I don't know how relevant it is to the conversation or how awful it's
>> going
>> to be trying to do it but I did plan on taking a stab at creating a new
>> unified-el compatible grammar for OGNL when I do my big IoC-friendly
>> re-factor.  (probably a 2.7.3 release kind of change)
>>
>> Since jboss and others already sound like they do some el extensions of
>> their own to support parameter passing / other things it hopefully won't
>> be
>> too bad.   I'll try and post updates wherever I can to get more people
>> involved but knowing how you want to handle backwards compatibility ->
>> unified el + ognl stuff (if at all) and if OGNL needs to perform any
>> extra
>> tricks to make it happen would be a good thing to have ready and discuss
>> /
>> etc during that dev cycle. 
>>
>> I'm guessing I'll probably start on it sometime this month and finish
>> "whenever". .
>>
>>
>> Tom Schneider wrote:
>>   
>>> I was working on a proof of concept for Unified EL:  
>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/S2PLUGINS/unified-el-plugin.html
>>>
>>> I had a basic value stack up and running, however, I never took it any 
>>> farther than that.  Richard Burton is planning on implemented an MVEL 
>>> stack in the near future, but he's waiting on some changes from Chris 
>>> Brock in MVEL itself.
>>>
>>> I think in the long run, we really need a new tag library to fully take 
>>> advantage of the unfied EL.  Even if we do that though, standard unified 
>>> EL is not as powerful as OGNL.  We would need to extend the language or 
>>> be limited when compared to what is possible with OGNL today.  Maybe for 
>>> some people that's not an issue, but I fear that would keep some people 
>>> from switching.
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>   
> 
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